Fidelius (Re: Chapter Discussions: Chapter 4, Number Twelve, Grimmauld Place)

[Inge]

No: HPFGUIDX 83715


> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, eloiseherisson at a... wrote:
> > Chapter summary.
Number 12 is invisible to Harry until he follows Lupin's 
instructions to think about what he just memorised. Lupin magically 
opens the door and the group enter.
> > <snipping>

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...> 
wrote:
>> snip >>> 
Here's one part I didn't get: All the others were members of the 
Order--could they already see 12 Grimmauld upon arrival and only 
Harry had to think about what he memorized, or do you have to go 
through this process again each time you try to find the location? 
>>snip>>
once you know the "secret" you can go back over and over to the 
location without having to be informed again by the Secret Keeper. I 
always pictured it as the secret being wiped from your mind once you 
left the location, but the Order obviously knows exactly where to go 
with Harry. Any other thoughts?

Inge:
It doesn't make a lot of sense that Harry had to memorise 
the 'password' unless he would need to use it again. Otherwise he 
could just read the words out loud and then destroy the paper - or 
give it back to Moody.
Then why is it that the other members don't have to say the words to 
get in?
And when Harry uses the fire in Umbridges office one would think that 
the fireplace at Grimmauld Place 12 had a charm on it as well so that 
not anyone who just says "Kitchen, Grimmauld Place 12" can get their 
head inside Sirius' kitchen. But Harry doesn't need a 'password' for 
that.