Fidelius (Re: Chapter Discussions: Chapter 4, Number Twelve, Grimmauld Place)

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> Inge:
> It doesn't make a lot of sense that Harry had to memorise 
> the 'password' unless he would need to use it again. Otherwise he 
> could just read the words out loud and then destroy the paper - or 
> give it back to Moody.
> Then why is it that the other members don't have to say the words to 
> get in?
> And when Harry uses the fire in Umbridges office one would think that 
> the fireplace at Grimmauld Place 12 had a charm on it as well so that 
> not anyone who just says "Kitchen, Grimmauld Place 12" can get their 
> head inside Sirius' kitchen. But Harry doesn't need a 'password' for 
> that.

Gorda:
But the secret had already been disclosed to him, so he could use the Floo network. 
Presumably until the secret keeper tells you the secret, you are not even aware that it 
exists, so you wouldn't even know that a 12 Grimmauld Place existed (remember on 
the street there's a number 11 and a number 13, until Harry *thinks* about what he 
read. Reading it wasn't enough.)

It raises the question about Godric's Hollow: presumably Peter had told Sirius where 
to find the Potters, because when he finds Peter's place empty he gets a bad feeling 
and goes looking for hte Potters. So other close friends (Remus, DD, Hagrid?) had 
been told the secret, before Peter went blabbering to LV. But after the place got blown 
up, did the charm still exist? Otherwise, how could the police come to the place? 
Hagrid says he went to get Harry before the Muggles started swarming around... is he 
just assuming here? Or does he know that the Fidelius Charm is lifted after the people 
it's protecting die? Wouldn't little Harry be still protected by Fidelius?

Very confusing...

Gorda