The Phoenix

dudemom_2000 dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 28 22:43:06 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 83752

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "entropymail" 
<entropymail at y...> wrote:
> Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the whole "phoenix"
> theme, and how it may affect the outcome of the series.  
> 
>>Snip<<...Fawkes has been looking badly for days. This
> seems to relate to Harry's noticing (throughout the series, but
> particularly in Book 5) that Dumbledore is looking older and 
frailer than he has ever seen him before. Is Dumbledore about to 
burst into flames (metaphorically or literally)?? And let's not 
forget Dumbledore's work with Nicholas Flamel on the 
Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone, and his comment to Harry that "there 
are some things that are worse than death". He seems to know more 
than he is telling about what those things are.
> 
> And how does all of this affect Harry? Can't seem to put my finger 
on > it yet, but I still feel there is to be some rebirth of 
Dumbledore through Harry (again, either metaphorically or literally) 
by the series' end.  

> ::Entropy:: , who apologizes for posing questions without actually
> answering any of them.

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Good question! It is possible that Dumbledore's relationship to the 
Phoenix means rebirth of some sort for him and Harry may just be the 
instrument that makes it happen. I do feel that his comment to Harry 
about "some things are worse than death" is in direct reference to 
Voldemort. I think he did die at Godric's Hollow that night and he 
is now "living" the "worse than death" part. He is only partially 
successful in everything he does - he keeps being thwarted by Harry 
and Dumbledore. (This doesn't mean that he isn't a real threat, 
though) He may have figured out how to get a body back but I bet it 
ends up only being temporary and that, like his other ventures, also 
fails on him, Harry's blood or no...... It seems to me that 
Voldemort is still weak - he depends on his Death Eaters and 
Wormtail to do most of what he needs to do. He certainly isn't 
powerful enough to go it alone. I think Old Magic will be the thing 
to defeat him and Dumbledore will have to give Harry what he needs 
to do it because I am convinced poor Dumbledore isn't going to make 
it past the next book. Just a couple of knuts and a kneazle!

Dudemom_2000

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