[HPforGrownups] The Phoenix

Tanya Swaine swaine.t at xtra.co.nz
Wed Oct 29 07:36:45 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 83767

At 18:03 28/10/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>  ::Entropy::  wrote.
>
>And how does all of this affect Harry? Can't seem to put my finger on
>it yet, but I still feel there is to be some rebirth of Dumbledore
>through Harry (again, either metaphorically or literally) by the
>series' end.  Perhaps Harry will replace Dumbledore as the "only one
>he ever feared" in Voldemort's eyes. (I am of the belief that Harry
>has greater powers than anyone realizes, and that it was his unbridled
>powers which actually caused the destruction and incineration of
>Grimmauld Place. Yes, Harry "rose" from the ashes of Grimmauld Place!!).
>
>::Entropy:: , who apologizes for posing questions without actually
>answering any of them.


Tanya here.

This activated my interest.  So, I went online to see what I could 
discover.  Unfortunately I didn't
discover too much new of the theme of The Phoenix.  In Chinese culture it 
is said that the phoenix
is both yin and yang, light and dark.  Now I am not sure what culture JKR 
is basing the creation
of Fawkes on.  But This could make things very interesting.

The Phoenix also symbolizes immortality, resurrection and life after 
death.  Now when Dumbledore
named the order, Order of the Phoenix, I feel he meant it to last forever, 
and could never be fully
killed off.  In this mythology, there are several different stories, 
depending on location.

Now the connections between Dumbledore, Harry and Fawkes.  This is a tricky 
one, I don't have
any answers either, but its fun checking it out.  However, regarding Harry 
and Dumbledore.  It is
true that Harry has a bit of LV in him (dark).  But I am wondering about 
the light part of the equation.
He might have enough as it stands now but I wonder if the balance will be 
Dumbledore will willing and
knowingly put a bit of him in Harry, and that will create the balance as LV 
unwittingly put a bit of
himself in Harry.

At the beginning of the series when Dumbledore is waiting at Privet Drive, 
Mc Gonagall, (spelling sorry)
replies when Dumbledore says that LV has powers he will never have.  She 
says that Dumbledore is just
too noble to use them.  Now this would fit with Dumbledore having a 
connection to Fawkes, having the
knowledge, but making the choice.

Anyway, that is enough for me tonight.  Look forward to figuring out a bit 
more.

Tanya





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