Dumbledore's integrity (was Prophecy problems)

[mochajava13]

No: HPFGUIDX 79468

"Kirstini" <kirst_inn at y...> wrote:
> > The fact that Sirius describes Harry as "the last of the 
Potters" suggests to me that he has some sort of information 
about the bloodline of the family and its importance to Voldemort 
that Harry and the reader still don't.  And would Order member 
Sirius really have kept this information from his boss? If we can 
assume that DD has this information, and Harry doesn't, then it's 
not too big a step to get to the assumption that he *hasn't* told 
him everything. And I'm not sure about that "proved himself an 
honourable man" bit, either. Remember, in the same scene, DD admits 
that while not actually *lying* to Harry previously, he has been 
somewhat economical with the truth. >>>
 

Now me (Sarah):
Sirius didn't describe Harry as the last of the Potters; he 
described James, Lily, and Harry as the last of the Potters.  
Remember, Lily was also a Potter.  I didn't believe Voldemort for a 
second when he said that Lily did not have to die.  (And even if he 
was telling the truth, Voldemort might have just not mentioned the 
fact that James didn't have to die either.)  Sirius told us in OoP 
that James always hated everything about the dark arts.  He used 
this as an explanation for why James hated Snape during their 
entire 
time at Hogwarts; Snape was well known for an obsession of the dark 
arts (from PoA) and for knowing more curses in his first year than 
most seventh years.  Part of James' hatred for Snape was because of 
Snape's obsession/fascination with the dark arts in school.  (In 
the 
books, Dumbledore said that Snape/James hatred was like the 
Draco/Harry hatred: they hated each other, argue all the time, and 
are completly willing to hex each other.  Harry even thinks that 
the 
only person he would treat like James treated Snape is Draco.)  We 
also know that James' parents were alive and well when James was at 
Hogwarts, since they practically adopted Sirius.  Which begs the 
question: what happened to the other Potters, and why did James 
always hate everything to do with the dark arts, even during 
school?  My thoughts on it are that James came from a family that 
was well known for fighting against the dark arts, and were a 
general annoyance to any dark wizard.  The last of the Potters 
line, 
combined with the fact that we know almost nothing of Harry's 
grandparents on his dad's side, seem to mean that Voldemort finally 
got rid of a pesky family that kept getting in his way.  Who 
knows?  
Maybe Harry's grandfather went to school with Voldemort and hated 
Voldemort like the Draco/Harry, Snape/James.  Voldemort's personal 
vendetta against someone he hated in school.  And we now know that 
the Potters (James and Lily) escaped Voldemort three times before 
they actually died.  That's got to bug Voldemort; every time 
Voldemort sees Harry, Voldemort says something to the effect 
of "you've escaped me for the last time, you annoying pest; you've 
ruined my plans for the last time."

As to the whole prophecy thing, I think that Dumbledore told Harry 
all of it.  But, I think that Dumbledore's, and Harry's 
interpretation is wrong.  Dumbledore thinks that the power that 
Voldemort doesn't know about is love.  But is it?  Voldemort knows 
about love, he's just never experienced it (to our knowledge) and 
always discounts it.  That doesn't mean that he doesn't know about 
it.  Voldemort expects people who love to behave in certain ways.  
That shows that he at least knows about it.  And Harry thinks that 
he has to murder Voldemort or be murdered by Voldemort.  But 
Dumbledore says to Voldemort that there are other ways to destroy 
someone aside from murder.  Could one of these ways be how Harry 
defeats Voldemort?  Maybe the fact that Harry doesn't seem to fear 
death but Voldemort does could be the power Harry has that 
Voldemort 
doesn't.  Voldemort is terrified of death; Harry at times seems to 
embrace it.  Harry didn't defend himself in OoP when Voldemort cast 
the Adava Kedavra curse.  Harry thought that death would be better 
that the pain he felt while possessed by Voldemort.  Maybe this, as 
well as his thought that he could be with Sirius, was what 
disallowed Voldemort from possessing Harry.  
Sarah