Umbridge????

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No: HPFGUIDX 79571

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "slgazit" <slgazit at s...> 
wrote:
> ~snip~
> > I personally don't believe she was raped. For two reasons: I can't
> > imagine any woman writer, especially one as sensitive as JKR,
> > using rape as a punishment, even towards such a disgusting
> > character. The second reason is the nurse's
> > assertion that there was nothing wrong with her except for shock.
> > She would not have said so if Umbridge was raped.
> > 

Me (Joe):  When I first read the book, the idea that Umbridge could have 
been raped did not come in to my head for a minute, however when I 
read the posts about this and re-read that chapter I started to think 
that maybe she was raped.  The reason that I think it could be 
possible is because she is just sitting there completly in shock.  
When the Centaurs were carrying her away she was still yelling at 
them, however after Dumbledore rescued her she was in a state of 
shock so great that she was not even saying a word.  I would think 
that she would have come back yelling about how they should get rid 
of centaurs because they are uncivilized and dangerous, but she came 
back and was instead in shock even though it APPEARED that there was 
no physical damage done.  Now what could the centaurs have done to 
her to put her in this state of shock without doing any obvious 
physical damage to her?  When the nurse examined Umbridge she may not 
have seen any physical damage but it could have been there. Also, 
when Ron started to make the noises that sounded like the Centaurs, 
she obviously had a reaction of terror.  Why would she be this 
terrified if the Centaurs simply held her captive for less than a day 
without even physically hurting her.  Now I'm not saying that I even 
believe that JKR was trying to infer that Umbridge was raped but I am 
definitly leaving the possiblity open.  

-Joe