Umbridge????

[slgazit]

No: HPFGUIDX 79598

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cubs99111" <cubs9911 at a...> 
wrote:
> Me (Joe):  When I first read the book, the idea that Umbridge could 
have 
> been raped did not come in to my head for a minute, however when I 
> read the posts about this and re-read that chapter I started to 
think 
> that maybe she was raped.  The reason that I think it could be 
> possible is because she is just sitting there completly in shock.

Being in shock due to a kidnapping does not equal rape.
  
> she came 
> back and was instead in shock even though it APPEARED that there 
was 
> no physical damage done.  Now what could the centaurs have done to 
> her to put her in this state of shock without doing any obvious 
> physical damage to her?

But rape does cause physical damage, especially gang rape. And don't
forget that the WW medical system is a lot more advanced than ours
(e.g. they mend broken bones in a second). If it happened, it would
be diagnosed.

>  Now I'm not saying that I even 
> believe that JKR was trying to infer that Umbridge was raped but I 
am 
> definitly leaving the possiblity open.  

Since JKR is the author, she is in charge of the contents and what
happened, whether we like it or not. I don't believe that rape
was her intent. Not only does it not fit with the story, it would
seem extremely strange as the story implies that Umbridge got what
she deserved (note the satisfaction by everyone at Umbridge's fate). 
I don't believe for a moment that it would be JKR's
intent to present rape as due punishment, even for someone like
Umbridge.

Of course, you could add your own details to it, but I prefer to
let JKR tell her story, even when I don't like her choices
(e.g. I would like Harry and Hermione to fall in love, but
JKR is clearly leading us to a Ron/Hermione relationship), and
rape simply does not have a place there - unless presented as
a horrible crime (and Umbridge's treatment was not presented as such).

Salit