Time, Repetition and the Uber-Dimension

[Talisman]

No: HPFGUIDX 80168

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sevenhundredandthirteen" 
<sevenhundredandthirteen at y...> wrote:
Laurasia
> > In other words, your theory has little to do with time-travel. > 
> Nothing was changed at all, then! Snape saved Harry all along.
> <snip>
> So, whilst I've been bickering with you about Time-Travel- you 
theory doesn't require the use of *any* form of time-travel at all! 
All you need is Snape to stop a hundred Dementors without anyone 
noticing.

Talsiman, who thinks that Laurasia should check her pockets for 
rouge time-turners so we don't have to keep returning to this well-
worn subject, explains:

You may recall (or not) that this all began with a query about how 
Fudge knew the dementors tried to kiss Harry.  In the process the 
question arose as to whether Snape (or whomever you like) needed to 
be conscious to preserve Harry so that he could become the older 
self who created the Patronus. This person would also know about the 
kiss attempt. 

Obviously, my theory DOES include the lengthy time-travel discussion 
that followed.

What you are really trying to ask is: "if Snape could save Harry 
from the dementors, why did Harry have to go back at all?"

You may as well ask, if DD knew Voldemort was going to get to the 
Mirror of Erised, why did he wait to destroy the SS until after 
Harry's little adventure?  Harry didn't save the stone, it was 
destroyed. And DD didn't need Harry to destroy it. (Or, in CoS, why 
did DD let students go on being petrified instead of sending them 
home, etc.) 

Because in the process of these adventures, DD is preparing Harry 
for an ultimate showdown with LV.  DD is also working out other 
parts of his plan.

I thought you recognized the value to Harry of learning how to 
produce the Patronus, as well as the Prongs/James aspect of it.

Harry doesn't confront LV in PoA, but the "saving Sirius" adventure, 
which includes the dementors-by-the-lake scene, takes the place of 
the usual LV confrontation as a practical lesson in life and DADA.

Also, a big part of the time-travel was saving Sirius.

Talisman, suggesting we find something fresh to talk about.