[HPforGrownups] Re: The magic power of love. Was: BANG! You're dead!

[Laura Ingalls Huntley]

No: HPFGUIDX 80491


Laura :
>> *sings* WRO-ONG!  ^_^ Let's take a look at SS/PS, American Edition,
>> pg.  270:
> (SNIP very good quote)
>> So, from this here very illuminating bit of canon, I'd say not
>> only  does Harry go after the Stone to prevent *Voldemort* from
>> destroying  the world (or at least Hogwarts ^_~), but that he is
>> also quite aware  that Voldemort will kill him even if he *doesn't*
>> try to defend the  Stone.
>
Del:
> Okay, okay :-) You're perfectly right, I must admit it.

*a little nonplussed* I'm...right? I...I mean, of course I'm right!

*blinks*

>> And I don't quite understand why you would say that Harry thought
>> he was only fighting Quirrell, anyway.  Voldemort had been revealed
>> to him at this point -- in fact, when Quirrellmort first starts
>> coming at Harry, it's with Voldemort's face to the front.
>
> But had Voldemort revealed himself already when Quirrell demands the
> Stone from Harry before attacking him ? I don't remember too well,
> sorry. What I meant is that when Harry went through the trapdoor, he
> thought he was "only" going to fight Snape, not LV. And when he
> discovers Quirrell, he doesn't realize right away that Quirrell is
> carrying LV around with him.
>

That's true...maybe...although I think I've forgotten exactly why this 
was an issue in the first place (you must forgive me, I'm low on 
sleep).   Let's take a look at the  relevant passages, shall we?

"He put the bottle down and walked forward; he braced himself, saw the 
black flames licking his body, but couldn't feel them - for a moment he 
could see nothing but dark fire - then he was on the other side,  in 
the last chamber.

There was already someone there - but it wasn't Snape.  It wasn't even 
Voldemort."

 From this, I *think* I'd say that Harry wouldn't have been too 
surprised if Voldemort had been in that chamber.  I'm not certain what 
exactly the point you were trying to make was, but I'd contend on the 
strength of this and the passage I quoted before that Harry is quite 
clear that, ultimately, he is defending the stone from Voldemort.

And, um...Okay, I'm not going to quote this entire passage, so you're 
just going to have to trust me that I'm sitting with the book open in 
front of me and telling the truth...Here's how it goes down, from A to 
Z.

a) Harry enters the chamber, sees Quirrell, is surprised.
b) Quirrell gloats, calls Snape an "overgrown bat, ties Harry up.
c) Quirrell turns his attention back to the mirror, sees himself 
presenting the Stone to his Master.
d) Meanwhile, Harry tries to distract Quirrell from the Mirror.
e) Harry realizes that if he looked in the Mirror, he would see himself 
finding the Stone and would know how to get it.
f) Harry tries to get in front of the Mirror, falls over as his feet 
are tied.
g) Voldemort's voice issues from Quirrell's being "to Harry's horror", 
telling him to "use the boy."
h) Quirrell releases Harry from the ropes and makes him look in the 
mirror.
i) Harry receives the stone, but lies to Quirrell about it.
j) Quirrell pushes Harry out of the way, Harry tries to "make a break 
for it."
k)Voldemort's voice again, saying, "He lies.."
l) Voldemort has Quirrell remove the turban, Harry freezes in terror 
during this process, Quirrell turns around.
m) Harry sees Voldemort's face and they chat a bit (or rather, 
Voldemort spews Evil Overlord-esque ramblings).
n) Harry is still held transfixed by his fear.
p) Voldemort asks for the stone
p) Harry suddenly regains the use of his legs and "stumbles backward."
q) Harry doesn't get far and Voldemort insults his parents.
r) Harry screams "LIAR!"
s) Quirrel starts walking backward toward him, so that Voldemort 
advances upon him.
t) Meanwhile, Voldemort is taunting Harry about his parents, then asks 
for the stone, to which Harry shouts "NEVER!" and "sprang toward the 
flame door".
u) Quirrellmort goes after him.
v) They tussel, during which there is alot of shouting.
w) Quirrell: "My hands! My hands!" *shrieks*
x) Voldemort: "KILL HIM! KILL HIM!"
y) Unidentified voices in Harry's head (???!!!!): "Harry! Harry!"
z) Harry passes out.

So...I *think* I disagree with you...Harry doesn't actually go into 
full-on Hero Mode until Voldemort asks for the stone.  In his 
interactions with Quirrell before Voldemort is revealed, he seems to 
just be trying to outsmart Quirrell and quietly get away.

Anyway, I was going to reply to the rest of your responses as well, but 
in the time it took me to make my (completely useless) little list, 
"Sandy aka mrsbeadsley" said pretty much everything I wanted to say 
(and better than I could have said it, to boot).

Laura (who *must* find a way to curb her unusual penchant for listing 
things)

P.S.  Ideas about what's up with those unidentified voices, anyone?