Reaction to MAGIC DISHWASHER

boyd_smythe boyd.t.smythe at fritolay.com
Fri Sep 19 14:50:43 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 81124

> Melody wrote:
> So for the first official MD post, Pip wanted to post her new turn 
on MD.  And frankly, it is not so simple and obvious as you said. <

I agree now that it is neither simple nor obvious. :)

> Melody
> See, the original MD (formed after GoF) was shaped around bring a 
Vapour!mort to a Body!mort.  That happened.  Now Pip is exploring 
*why* Dumbledore wanted that in the first place.  Meaning: what does 
he want a Body!mort for.
> And she says it is not just to kill the guy.  He flat out tells 
Voldie that.  Now I know we have proof he lies now, but if Dumbledore 
wanted to kill him, I think he would have.  He had a clear shot. <

OK, I disagree again. We've been led to believe by the prophecy and 
Dumbledore himself in OOP that only Harry can vanquish LV. And I 
believe that. I believe that DD could have, at best, killed LV's 
current body. But then we'd have another Vapor!mort or something and 
LV would just come back later. After doing this a half dozen times, DD 
would get too old for all this, and then LV would win.

Yes, in some ways that's not so different from Pip's latest 
incarnation of MD, except that she talks about recurring Dark Lords 
(plural). I simply refer to a recurring LV (until his soul is dealt 
with).

> Melody
> Two strong dark wizards in 50 years.  The environment is rather 
nurturing, in my opinion. <

OK, I have a big concern about this line of thought: what do we really 
know about other Dark Lords?

* Do we know that there have been other Dark Lords anywhere close to 
being as strong and unkillable as LV?
* Do we know that they had as much WW support as him?
* Do we know that there are not also Dumbledores born once a 
generation to defeat them?

Canon says virtually nothing on these points, so for all we know LV is 
an unprecedented evil. In fact, I can cite canon on my side here: the 
WW has been in existence for thousands of years (ancient Egyptian 
wizards are mentioned in POA). Yet it has not been destroyed or turned 
into a totalitarian state by a deathless Dark Lord yet. And if this 
type of thing happened all the time, wouldn't it be mentioned 
somewhere by now? Wouldn't someone have said, "Boy this Voldemort is 
every bit as bad as so-and-so was"? Wouldn't Binns have mentioned a 
procession of Dark Lord wannabes throughout the ages?

So either LV is unique or somehow the WW always beats his type before 
he does too much damage. Either way, where's the big need to stop the 
"cycle"?

> Melody
> But back to my other idea.  Do not despair.  MDDT will get around to 
address the Shrieking Shack (though a lack of Peter Pettigrew in OoP 
makes it kind of hard) and the Graveyard interpretation MD makes.  
> Melody <

You tease! :)

-Remnant





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