Spying Game Philosophy - The Phoenix must die!

[slgazit]

No: HPFGUIDX 81222

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jwcpgh" <jwcpgh at y...> wrote:
> <a bunch of snips>
> Fudge deserves plenty of contempt on a personal level regardless 
of 
> DD's opinion of the Ministry.  *rolls eyes*

Fudge is a small man wearing shoes much too big for him, and too 
petty to realize that.

> I very much 
> like Pip's theory that DD is at Hogwarts to mold his students in 
his 
> own image.  Given that there's only one school of wizardry in the 
UK 
> and there are no institutions of higher learning, Hogwarts has to 
be 
> a very important and influential place.

Yes, but I also think that Dumbledore had no desire to rule or deal 
with politics. Also I believe that he wants to be there now to look 
after Harry. While Harry attends Hogwarts, Dumbledore will be there.

> If you needed any further 
> proof, Lucius sat on the Board of Governors,
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> Moreover, there is clearly 
> ongoing communication between Fudge and DD throughout the books,

Actually not really. Fudge seems to me the kind of person unable to 
make an independent decision. He starts out doing what Dumbledore 
tells him but then drifts. Already in CoS we see him moving away 
from Dumbledore. I thought it very revealing that when he goes to 
arrest Hagrid in CoS, Malfoy Senior arrives some minutes later and 
says "already here Fudge? good! good!". I think their relationship 
started then and proceeded so that by OoP Fudge is completely 
manipulated by Malfoy, but that it started long before that. I would 
not be surprised to find that in PoA Fudge sent the dementors to 
Hogwarts at Malfoy's behest and that Malfoy conveyed to the 
dementors that they should kill Harry given the chance. After all 
they have tried to do that at least three times (on the train to 
school, during the first Quidditch match and again when Sirius was 
captured).

Salit


> I would suggest that DD doesn't necessarily have contempt for the 
> office of Minister, but he doesn't find much to respect in the way 
> Fudge is doing the job.  As always with a leadership position, it 
is 
> what the holder makes it.

Exactly but I can't see DD willing to continue to live with such an 
incompetent leader during times of crisis. I was surprised that by 
the end of OoP he was not actively working to replace Fudge. Perhaps 
he is waiting for the WW to do that for him, after all the 
California governor is being recalled for misdeeds far more minor 
than Fudge's.

Salit