[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledores Philosophy (was MAGIC DISHWASHER...)

Iggy McSnurd coyoteschild at peoplepc.com
Fri Sep 26 20:23:27 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 81682

 From Kneasy
>
> I expect lots of chiding messages will wing my way saying I don't
> understand, that it solves all problems. Sorry, it doesn't. Loving your
> enemy does not change how he feels about you. He is still  your enemy,
> whether you want him to be or not. He has to *decide* to change, and he
> needs a good reason. Peace and love may  sound good, but a vanquished
> enemy may be even better, so  far as he is concerned. Sometimes
> forgiveness is the most unforgivable insult of all. It can be so
> patronising and demeaning.
>

Coming from the person who originated this aspect of the thread, I'll be the
first... well... lessee.. third, apparently... to agree that love DOESN'T
solve all problems.  There are a number of people out there that have
comittes atrocities where I feel that the only real justice would be a slow
and painful death for them... (You know... the "Death of 1000 Knives" type
thing for people who commit truly heinous acts of evil...)

The basis for the theory, however, stems from a few things:

1 - Love as a solution and salvation seems to play an important part in
JKR's world.

2 - There's been an issue made of the nature of Harry's protection, and why
Quirrel was destroyed by it because LV could not bear the touch of love.

3 - There is a philosophy that, to sum up, states that what a thing does not
posess in the slightest is that thing's bane.  LV posesses no love, and he
doesn't understand it, therefore it's his bane.  (It's like water having no
fire in it, yet fire can evaporate water.  Fire has no water in it, yet
water can douse a fire.)


As for forgiveness being the most demeaning of insults... Yes, it is to
those who do not wish to, or care to, be forgiven.  But if one has the
smallest spark of remorse within them, the tiniest bit of true regret or
love for themselves, then I don't think it's an insult.


I agree that some things need to be destroyed or eliminated... but only
after other options have been looked into.

Iggy McSnurd
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