[HPforGrownups] James Potter Still Alive?

jazmyn jazmyn at pacificpuma.com
Sun Sep 28 18:09:13 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 81803



rach9112000 wrote:
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> 
>   Just to put forward a bit of the evidence for this theory
> mentioned in the book from book 3:
>     1) Unlike everyone else, Lupin on first seeing Harry never
> stared at his scar or mentioned his resemblance to James. (ch 5)

Why would he?  He has more class then to embarrass Harry by dwelling on 
his scar.  He certainly knows all that's happened to him, being a close 
friend of the family and sympathizes.

>     2)Harry tells Lupin that when a dementor gets near him, he hears
> his mum being murdered by voldemort. On hearing this, Lupin had
> made "a sudden motion with his arm, as though to grip Harry's
> shoulder, but thought better of it". (ch 10)

Lupin was a close friend of James and Lily...and he is watching Jame's 
son telling about hearing Lily die.  OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO REACT!! 
What? He is going to just take it without so much as a blink?  He is 
sharing Harry's pain, NOT being a long lost father.

>     3) Trelawny said that Lupin "positively fled when I offered to
> crystal gaze for him-"(ch11)

Anyone with any sense would flee from Trelawny's predictions.  Being as 
she mostly wants to predict BAD THINGS.  And its the full moon the 
boggart becomes, NOT a crystal ball. That is made clear when Hermione 
confirms she knew Lupin was a werewolf.  His fear of hurting someone 
when out of control as a werewolf would be greater then fear of a 
prediction 'crystal'.  The prediction itself is not fearsome to anyone 
but Harry and Voldemort really, which is why people were keeping it from 
Harry till he was 'old enough' to deal with it.

>     4) When Harry tells lupin he hears his mums voice louder, Lupin
> looks "paler than usual" and when he says he heard his dad, lupin
> says "you heard James?" in a strange voice.(ch12)

Again, Lupin was a good friend of James. He is certainly going to be 
effected by hearing about his friend's last minutes of life before being 
brutally murdered. The strange voice was likely his trying to control 
his emotions over hearing that Jame's son was hearing the death of his 
parents, who also happen to be FRIENDS of Lupin's!  You think any of you 
  could keep totally in control hearing someone talk about the violent 
death of your best friends?


>     5) "I certainly don't want Harry dead...""An odd shiver passed
> over his face". (ch 17)

Again, reacting to the idea of the some of his close friend being 
harmed.  Also if he knows the prophecy, he would also realize Harry is 
the last hope for the fight against Voldemort and Harry's death would be 
  total catastrophe for the Wizard World..

>     6) lupin has "no hesitation" about what harry's father would
> think (ch 18).

Oh course he doesn't.  He was close friends with James and knew him 
better then anyone alive, perhaps even better then Sirius, as Sirius was 
too 'full of himself' to really see people as they are.  Note that Lupin 
was far more sensitive towards others then the other Marauders, being as 
he didn't join in the 'Snape tormenting' the others did.


> 
>   These are just a few of the things mentioned in the book which
> suggest James has switched with Lupin. I know it's a slightly far
> fetched theory but I definately wouldn't rule out that JKR could
> pull it off.

Being as JKR herself has said in interviews that Harry's parents are 
dead and the dead don't come back to life and all, I would doubt it. Any 
magic that switched minds in people would most likely be of short 
duration, like the Polyjuice potion.  There is no reason for them to 
switch places 'mentally' to begin with and James certainly would not 
have left Lupin to protect his wife and son for him. There is just not 
any valid reason for a switch.  Plus its likely that if their minds had 
been switched, the death of one of them would have caused the magic to 
reverse and minds returned to their proper places.. or possibly the 
death of both individuals from the shock.  And SOMEONE would know 
afterwards!  That's not something you hide that easily from others. 
Dumbledore would certainly know and would have said SOMETHING, knowing 
that Harry wanted more then anything to know his parents..

No, I don't buy the mind switching idea at all.  Theres no reason for it.

James is dead and Lupin is not going to turn out to be James in wolf's 
clothing.


> 
>   What does anyone else think about this theory?
> 
>       Rachel
> 


Sorry for the format, I was trying to answer this in order.

Jazmyn (who would not be related to Lily by being named after a flower.)








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