Death Chamber/ancient magic

Talisman talisman22457 at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 30 09:27:20 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 81908

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "urghiggi" <urghiggi at y...> 
wrote<snip> this kind of "deep" magic is <snip> Almost like 
the "rules" that underlie the foundation of the world in question, 
crafted by the one who created the world. <snip> If Harry's mom's 
sacrifice is an example of the "ancient magic" -- what does that say 
about D'dore's ability to manipulate it in service of his plan?> 
Urghiggi, chgo

Talisman, busily tossing gnomes over the list walls, observes: 

Alas, long after St. Vander Ark laid down the Lexiconic gospel you 
rely on, Dumbledore tells us that it was he, DUMBLEDORE, (not Lily) 
who made the "decision" that Harry would be protected by a 
certain "ancient magic" likely to slide under LV's radar.(OoP 835)

We see that it is not simply Lily's death that gives Harry what 
little protection he gets (partial days six weeks a year?) from 
this "ancient magic."  It is the "charm" Dumbledore placed on Harry. 
(OoP 836) A lovely little charm that just happens to require 
ingredients like Lily's blood and Petunia's home. Stir it around in 
a pot and Dumbledore says you've got "the strongest shield charm *I* 
[hear Dumbledore claiming credit?] could give you."  (OoP 836 my 
emphasis)

By the way, we know Lily's "sacrifice" didn't leave a physical mark 
on Harry. (SS 299) I suggest to you that the scar on Harry's head is 
indeed the defensive rune "eihwaz," (OoP 715) and a consequence of 
Dumbledore's charm.  This, of course, implies pre-meditation and 
orchestration. (Wouldn't do to have LV come knocking when Lily was 
upstairs taking a nap and Harry was bouncing on his Daddy's knee in 
the living room.) Ah, shades of Sirius Black.  

Moreover, that's not the only "ancient magic" that uses a parental 
soup base.  Recall that "old piece of Dark Magic" (GoF 656) that 
required some "Bone of the father....Flesh of the Servant... and 
Blood of the Enemy?" (GoF 641-42)  Odd fabric of creation, that. 

By the way, Dumbledore clearly anticipated LV using this 
cannibalistic little spell after the destruction of the SS.  

Dumbledore wasn't reading every Muggle newspaper in the world and he 
certainly wasn't monitoring the Little Hangleton gazette by 
coincidence. (GoF 601) He knew exactly where the "bone of the 
Father" had to be obtained (GoF 601-02) and he wasn't a bit 
surprised when LV showed up to get it.

(He had already insured that LV got his limb-chopping servant back, 
and soon fixed it so he got Harry's (gleam) blood, as well.)  

Yep, Dumbledore is quite adept at manipulating ancient magic. 

Talisman, reminding you that Muggles only see what they set out to 
see, so that their eyes slide "from the big book shop on one side to 
the record shop on the other" as if they can't see the Leaky 
Cauldron, at all.

 







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