Moody!Crouch and defence against Imperius

fiondavhar enigma_only at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 7 18:35:54 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 95420

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "laylalast" <liliana at w...> 
wrote:
> <snips rest of well put reply> 
> 
> Berit wrote:
> > So, in short, I believe Barty Crouch JR didn't familiarize Harry 
to 
> > the Imperio to be "nice" or just to keep up appearances, but that 
> the 
> > reason was a very practical and cynical one: He wanted to find 
out 
> if 
> > Harry could be controlled by it. If not; 'bad luck; we'll have to 
> do 
> > it another way then'.
> > 
> 
> Lilian here (only adding small snippet):
> 
> That does explain it to me!
> 
> And as we know from the Graveyard scene, LV did it another way. He 
> only crucio'd Harry because he knew (from Barty Crouch JR's info) 
> that the Imperius curse wasn't going to work. Otherwise,IMO, LV 
would 
> probably have shown to his DE's that he was also able to control 
> Harry by means of Imperio, both to diminish Harry's worth to Harry 
> himself as to the DE's (and to finally AK Harry without a fight?)

Bonny here:

But Lillian, LV DID put the imperius curse on Harry during the 
graveyard scene, and Harry once again threw it off. He was obviously 
either not informed of this ability by Crouch!Moody, or else he 
assumed that he would be powerful enough to control Harry anyway.

I think the reason that crouch!Moody tests Harry, and becomes 
downright excited when Harry comes off well, is because it shows that 
his master (LV) was not beaten by just any boy, but a boy with 
extradorinary natrual dark defense talents. The more he see's of 
Harry, the more he considers him a worthy opponant of LV. Imagine if 
LV had been beaten by someone with as little obvious talent as 
Neville! That would have been rather a kick in the pants for Barty. 
Instead he finds a talented and resourceful wizard, and he is 
impressed against his will. That doesn't mean that he doesn't want to 
kill him, it just makes Harry's remarkable escapes less insulting to 
LV's prowess than if he had been talentless.

Bonny







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