Did Lily run? was Why were the sacrifices different?
justcarol67
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Fri Apr 9 22:29:07 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 95546
-> vmonte wrote:
> I agree with you Carol. I think that Lily ran into Harry's bedroom.
> Do you think that maybe Lily was the original owner of Harry's wand?
> Maybe she did use it -- at the same time Voldemort used his. (I know
> this is a big stretch). <big snip>
Carol:
I think that Harry's wand, the "brother" to Voldemort's, was
especially destined for Harry. Lily's "first" wand was especially
suitable for Charms (SS/PS, "Diagon Alley" chapter). It's possible
that she later acquired a stronger one to cast the complicated
protective spell on Harry and/or the Fidelius Charm on Peter. (Clearly
DD didn't cast the Fidelius Charm or he'd have known that Peter, not
Sirius, was the Secret Keeper; ergo, Lily must have cast it.)
Anyway, I don't think she had her wand with her because, had she
confronted LV with her wand out as James did, he would have had to
fight her as he fought James. You don't just order an armed enemy who
has "defied you thrice" to "stand aside." James "had to die" in
Voldemort's view because he resisted Voldemort and could have stunned
him or otherwise deterred him from killing Harry. Lily, too, sould
have been a worthy opponent whom he had no choice but to fight, but we
see no sign that she did anything but scream and beg for mercy *for
Harry*--not for herself--and implore him to kill her instead. (In LV's
view, that meant kill her *as well as* Harry. He didn't understand
that it was quite literally a trade off. If you kill Lily *instead* of
Harry, you can't kill Harry.
Still, even though she knew she had to die, why not fight to protect
her son as James had fought to protect them both? Wouldn't her
sacrifice work just as well if she died fighting? As I see it, the
answer is no. She *couldn't* fight or the protective charm would not
have worked. She had to offer herself as a sacrificial *victim*. Had
she offered armed resistance, had she opposed or defied Voldemort in
any way, her willingness to die in Harry's place would have been
compromised. She had to make Voldemort exchange one innocent victim
for another. Otherwise, it would be a battle, not a sacrifice.
So, in short, I believe that Lily was wandless because she had to be
in order to save Harry.
Sorry I didn't respond to the other points in your post, but I don't
think Lupin was present at Godric's Hollow and don't have anything to
add to that discussion. (I've already presented my views on why he
reacted as he did to Harry hearing James's voice and don't want to
repeat them here.)
I do have one self-correction--the three defiances had to have
occurred before Harry's birth ("born to those who had thrice defied
him"), so they can't be the reason for the delay between the Prophecy
and the implementation of the Fidelius Charm. So I'm as confused as
ever on that particular point.
Carol
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