Acceptable Abuses?

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 95776

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Dolies <doliesl at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com,
> "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> No I totally understand, as I can tell from your posts
> contribute to this group, as majority of them are
> Snape-posts. How you must hate yet care so much about
> this character. I think this is a common reaction (or
> almost default) for many readers.  I've noticed in
> other online discussion group Snape threads tends to
> generate lots of discussions because he tend to
> generate conflicting emotions and reactions. The more
> the merrier~~ ;)
>


 Thank you! I was afraid no one will notice that I mostly post on 
Snape and Harry relationship and  some Sirius in- between. :o)

> Here's where we differ: you repeatedly insisting that
> Snape is neither complex nor ambiguous, his motivation
> is as obvious, scream out loud simplistic
> black-and-white because it's just pure unapologetic
> simple-minded hate. And I disagree with that view, so
> let's leave it as that. I do not find him THAT
> mysterious either, as I think I figure him out as
> close to the truth I think I can.

Yes, we do differ here.

> Laugh my ass off here, so what if it's wrong and
> inappropriate? Half of the crazy things happening in
> the book are inappropriate but wickedly fun. I enjoyed
> twins' teasing of Percy for taking himself too serious
> but as many posters pointed out here how hurtful they
> are. I totally share Harry and Ron's feelings here.
> 
> Hmm...I know better now that in this list at least, it
> seems sinful to admit if you enjoy reading Snape's
> abusive classroom behavior. But I really do laughed
> everytime!  Always reminds me of my teachers, oh I
> missed school~~

You misunderstood me completely. I actually agree with you. It is 
perfectly fine with me to laugh at the characters "inappropriate 
behaviour" and at the same time consider such behaviour to be 
inappropriate.

It is fine with me to laugh at malfoy as ferret. What I don't get is 
why is it such a stretch for you to consider that I may not only 
laugh while reading this scene, but think  about some more serious 
issues.

 

> Nope can't laugh at all because it's quite disturbing
> to see the heroes fallen at their worst (I hope that's
> their worst). Fallen  heroes at their ugliest are
> what's most disturbing for me (sorry, not abused poor
> helpless innocent little children). I completely share
> Harry's feeling right there.
>


Actually, if JKR does not play with us, little Severus in his 
underwear supposed to be helpless innocent  abused child in this 
scene.

Does it remind you fo any "real life" issues? At least a little bit? 



> So would you say part of your anger toward Snape
> oriented from Snape never get his dues? If he gets his
> dues properly in every book you'd feel it's more just
> and do not hate him as passionately? What IF there
> isn't really any satisfying due for Snape at the end?
> What would you think?


You got it. If he gets his dues in every book, I would not hate him 
as passionately. I actually only hate what he does "to poor abused 
innocent children". I don't hate all his actions. :o)


Alla