DD: an appreciation (Was Re: Snape, A Murderer?)

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 14 02:03:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 95866

Carol wrote:
Okay. I feel myself pushed into a corner here. I concede that *if*
that were the only option, he probably would use an Unforgiveable. But
I doubt that anything of the sort will happen. Dumbledore probably has
a number of abilities that we haven't yet seen demonstrated, and I
can't imagine him forced to use Voldemort's weapons. He's the only one
that Voldemort ever feared, and there's probably very good reason for
the fear. DD doesn't have to resort to evil means to win a battle.

Kneasy responded: 
I  was being sneaky and enticing you into committing youself before
I quoted the extract below, because there's a possibility he already has. 
> 
> GoF chap.37
> 
> "He did not wish to tell me," said  Dumbledore. "But I am a
sufficiently accomplished Legilimens myself to know when I am being
lied to and I - persuaded him - to tell me the full story, before I
left for the Department of Mysteries."
> 
> The bracketing of  a phrase with dashes, as above, is a generally
accepted convention for the use of a euphemism, a bland phrase that
replaces something not very pleasant or downright nasty. Is JKR
following common prctice?
> 
> Now all we have to do is determine just what sort of 'persuasion' DD
used when rushing to rescue Harry. 

Carol:
I agree that "persuaded him" set off with dashes suggests something
slightly unscrupulous, but JKR may be misleading us (again). More
important, Kreacher is a house-elf, not a human being, so different
means would probably be necessary to get the truth out of
him--something related to the magic that binds Kreacher to the Black
household rather than an Unforgiveable Curse or veritaserum. As DD has
expressed disapproval of Sirius's treatment of Kreacher and has gone
out of his way to help both Dobby and Winky, I seriously doubt that he
Imperio'd, much less Crucio'd, Kreacher. It would be completely out of
character--and altogether evil.

And you mean OoP, chap. 37, don't you?

Carol





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