Neville as Prophecy

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Thu Apr 15 18:39:40 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 96072

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> Del wrote:
> The rule about Prophecy is not that only those concerned by it can 
> *hold* it, it's that they are the only ones who can *pick it up* 
> from the racks in the DoM. Once Harry picked it up, anyone could 
> hold it, that's even why the DEs were there : to get the Prophecy 
> straight from Harry's hands.
> 
> vmonte responds:
> Really? I did not know that. I really need to read the MoM scene 
> again. I thought that only the person that it was about could 
touch 
> it. I figured that the DEs were just going to force Harry to bring 
> the jar out to Voldemort. 
> 
> I still think that it's interesting that JKR only has Neville and 
> Harry actually touching the prophecy. It seems unusual that this 
> would have no significance. If it wasn't important why didn't the 
> children pass the jar among themselves...curious.

The Troll (new to these environs) adds:
The handling of the prophecy really isn't indicative of anything. 
There is nothing in the canon that indicates that the restriction 
upon the handling of prophecy jars is an element of the prophecy 
itself. Someone had to rack the prophecies in the DofM, and we can 
be sure it wasn't Voldy, Harry or Neville. It seems much more likely 
that the restriction is placed there by DofM employees after the 
prophecy has been warehoused.

In addition, the question mark next to Harry's initials could be 
very significant, if that were the case. Since there is no 
definitive indication within the prophecy itself that it is 
referring to Harry, then the logical thing to do would be to exempt 
anyone who qualifies as a potential subject of the prophecy (Harry, 
Voldy AND Neville), if the spell was wizard created. If the spell 
was prophecy induced, then it is unlikely that both Harry and 
Neville could handle it. In addition, if the restriction is solely 
on the removal from the racks and not any subsequent handling, that 
seems more indicative of a wizard created spell as opposed to one 
that developed spontaneously upon Trelawney's utterance of the 
prophecy.








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