Mandrakes and The hand of glory
alshainofthenorth
alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Apr 17 17:53:32 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 96224
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "earendil_fr" <viviane at l...>
wrote:
> Earendil:
> I don't know what a mandrake root looks like in the RW, whether it
> looks more like a hand or a human body. But we all know for sure
> that a mandrake root in the WW looks like a human/baby body. So I
> suppose any connection between mandrake and the hand of glory would
> be fortuitous.
>
>
> Earendil.
Alshain:
If you're still following the thread, Earendil, here's an idea about
what a mandrake root looks like in real life:
http://www.alchemy-works.com/mandragora_autumnalis.html
http://www.lycaeum.org/languages/finnish/psykoakt/kuvat/mandrake.gif
http://www.mind-surf.net/drogas/mandragora.htm
(Note: M. officinarum and M. autumnalis are two different varieties)
In the days when people used mandrake roots as amulets, you got a
better price the more human-shaped the root was, so mandrake growers
usually tampered a bit with the root and there was a lot of cheating
going on. To my eye it doesn't look much like a human (except in
medieval woodcuttings), nor like a hand. Just like any fleshy, forked
root.
BTW, JKR didn't add the lethal shriek either -- historians like
Josephus and Pliny wrote that the only safe way to harvest a mandrake
was to stuff one's ears with wax, loose the soil around the root, tie
a dog to the plant and tempt it with a piece of meat from a safe
distance. The dog would pull up the root, the root would shriek and
the dog would drop dead. Wonder if a pair of earmuffs would be enough
to protect a Muggle?
How sure do you need me to be? Of course it can't be proved beyond
any doubt that 'mandragore' was corrupted to 'main de gloire' and
later translated to 'hand of glory', you can't do that with
etymology, folklore and history. But I think this is a reasonable
assumption -- they have the same connection to the gallows and some
connection with being used in treasure-hunting. Mandrake is also a
powerful narcotic, and in hand-of-glory folklore, you used the light
in the hand to keep people asleep while their house was burgled.
Can I be 100 % certain that this is intended? No. As I said, I found
it an interesting coincidence and one that could be significant. JKR
has picked and chosen a lot among existing folklore with no qualms
about changing things when it's necessary. She exaggerated the
mandrake's faint resemblance to a human body for humorous purposes
IMO (mandrakes getting acne and trying to get into each others' pots)
to the point of readers questioning the morals of cutting them into
pieces, and there's probably some as yet unknown purpose of the Hand
of Glory that made changes necessary. Can't wait to see what that is.
Alshain
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