Trelawney and ignorance

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 96326

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> wrote:
> GOF - uk edition - pg 177 - Trelawney to Harry: " .....I think I am 
> right in saying, my dear, that you were born in mid-winter?"
> "No," said Harry. "I was born in July."
> 
> What's this about?
> 
> 1) Trelawney doesn't know who Harry IS (the boy who lived)? Has 
> Dumbledore - for whatever reason? - kept Trelawney inside Hogwarts 
> since he first hired her (before Harry's birth) and kept her 
ignorant 
> of the Harry/Voldemort incident? 
> If she knows the story about Harry isn't it sort of weird that she 
> doesn't know when he was born? He IS - after all - rather famous!
> 
> 2) Could it be that Trelawney was actually *right* about Harry 
being 
> born in mid-winter? In this case - what does that mean to the 
story? 
> And why would somebody (Dumbledore ?) lie about Harry's birthdate? 
To 
> keep someones (Voldemorts ?) attention away from someone else 
> (Neville ?).
> 
> This has probably been talked about before - but Trelawneys 
ignorance 
> on the issue of Harry's birthday confuses me.
> Theories?
> 
> Inge

Interesting. When I read this quote, I thought that Trelawney was ... 
well, being Trelaney. I also was not surprised that she does not know 
this information. After all, it is not like all wisarding world knows 
Harry's birthday.

But you definitely may be on to something. We know that she made 
couple of correct predictions, so she is not a total fraud.

Dumbledore lying again? Very possible. I do believe that Neville will 
play a role in the end. Does Dumbledore thinks that Neville is truly 
chosen one? I will not put it behind him. 

Although I think that JKR intends for Harry to be the hero and even 
if Dumbledore believes that Neville is the one, the final showdown 
will be a big surprise for him.



Alla