[HPforGrownups] Siriusly Alive

[Miss Melanie]

No: HPFGUIDX 96448

Gina wrote:
Please tell me that someone else out there believes that Sirius is alive!
What is the veil? Doesn't the whole description sound like something that
belongs outdoors somewhere and not in a room of the MoM? I wish I had my
book with me - I need to read it again, but who hears something? Does
everyone or just Harry? If Sirius is really dead why didn't Harry ask for an
explanation as to how the veil killed him or what is behind it? I think we
are led to believe he doesn't want to know so that an answer does not have
to be given because it is not really curtains for Sirius. 

Gina - dying to know what the veil is.....

Gina A. Miller

My reply: While I am in love with Sirius and hated to see him die I know that he is dead.  I think what is interesting is everyone is way over dramatizing what I think the veil obviously is...the door to the afterlife.  It is the gateway to heaven, or wherever you believe lies when you die.  I mean to me I think it's very clear that this is what JKR meant with veil.  Honestly, I can't see where anyone else tries to come up with another meaning, like it or not the woman is a Christian and as such many of her personal beliefs and symbols are manifested into the book.  
 
To answer your question as to who all heard the voices I'm going to quote from OOTP.
"What are you saying?" he said very loudly so the words echoed all around the surrounding stone benches.  "Nobody's talking, Harry!" said Hermione, now moving over to him.  "Someones whispering behind there," he said, moving out of her reach and continuing to frown at the veil.  "Is that you, Ron?"  "I'm here, mate," said Ron, appearing around the side of the archway.  

"Can't anyone else hear it?" Harry demanded for the whispering and murmuring was becoming louder; without  really meaning to put it there, he found his foot on the dias.  "I can hear them too," breathed Luna, joining them around the side of the archway and gazing at the swary veil.  "There are people in there!"  (OTTP pg. 774, US edition)

 

Now, I must attest that I am one of the few people that believes that Luna is not this weird outsider.  I think she is honestly the only person who truly understands to some degree what Harry is going through.  And she has had ample of oppertunities to work through her mother's death.  Sure she believes some extraordinary things but honestly I don't think that all of what is said is wrong.  I believe that the Quibbler belongs to the type of journalism that is stretched a bit but not completely made up.  Neville did not speak up as to whether or not he heard anything, perhaps he wasn't sure if he did or not.  I believe he did.  My theory as to why some of the people hear what is beyond the veil and why others seemingly do not is simple:  If you have someone who is speaking to you, someone to hear.  You will hear it.  Yes, I  believe that there are many people trying to talk to Harry behind there.  Most importantly, his parents and possibly Cedric.  

Now where do I come up with this idea.  It's not very far fetched at all, in fact, it's almost cannon.  

"Yes, it was rather horrible," said Luna conversationally.  "I still feel very sad about it sometimes.  But I've still got Dad.  And anyway, it's not as though I'll never see Mum again, is it?"

"Er-it isn't?" said Harry uncertainly. She shook her head in disbelief.  "Oh, come on.  You heard them, just behind the veil, didn't you?'

"You mean...."

"In that room with the archway.  They were just lurking out of sight, that's all.  You heard them."

They looked at eachother, Luna was smiling slightly.  Harry did not know what to say or think.  Luna believed so many extraordinary things....yet he had been sure he had heard voices behind the veil.  (OTTP, US edition, page 865).  

Now, I'm going to assume that the British version said a similiar thing.  It seems like the same concept of heaven or the idea that when you die you will see your loved ones again.  We don't know what is beyond the veil because realistically nothing is.  I mean I do not believe that there is one thing the human eye can see that is held inside the veil.  I believe that you can see a whole world beyond it once dead. Now this sounds bad but I almost want Harry to die just because I want to read the scene where Sirius introduces Harry to his mum and dad.  

I think people who don't look at the veil with this interpretation are going to be severly dissappointed when they find out that some great pit of death, a evil monster, or just a death chamber does not lie behind it.  That's just my thought.  Honestly, I'm not sure if she will ever truly explain it.  It will get brought back again but I don't think she feels that she needs to explain it.  I think in JKR's mind she already did that.  

Why didn't he ask questions?  Harry rarely asks questions.  That's the truth of it.  He was told as a boy not to ask questions, so now he does not know what to ask.  Unless the information was offered to him he really doesn't ask much of it.  We see this time and time again with Dumbledore and Harry.  Harry doesn't ask the questions that we all know he should of asked.  

Just my thoughts.  Sorry this was a long post.

~Melanie

 

 

		
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