Remus & Sirius @Godric's Hollow

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 97169

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Juleczka <jolka55 at p...> wrote:

> 
> Julia
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> ...edited...
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> IMO the events happened in that order:
> 1. Voldemort comes to the Potters, kills Lily and James, tries to
> kill Harry (knocks down the house), disappears
> 2. DD somehow knows what happened and sends Hagrid for Harry
> 3. Hagrid and Sirius arrive at the scene at nearly the same time. 
> They both are able to see what happened because there is no house.
> 4. Sirius decides to run after Peter, Hagrid takes Harry and 
> Sirius's bike and off he goes.
> 
> ...edited...
> 
> Julia who really thinks that Peter divulged the secret only to
Voldemort.

bboy_mn:

I need a little clarification. Item 3.) Sirius and Hagrid arrive...,
"They are able to see what happened *because there is no house*"; is
that intended to imply the house was still invisible, or that the
house had been destroyed? If neither Sirius or Hagrid knew the secret,
wouldn't the house still be invisible? And, if the house was
invisible, how did Hagrid manage to find Harry in the rubble? If you
simply meant the house was destroyed, then how were two people who
didn't know the secret able to see the ruined house?

I think for sure, Sirius knew about the house and the secret. He was
an integral part of arranging the protection for the Potters, and
although I can't prove it, was probably the person who performed the
Secret Keeper Charm. He was probably one of the few in the wizard
world who was brilliant enough to do it.

I can only conclude that either Hagrid and Sirius knew the secret of
the house and were therefore able to see it, or the failed Death Curse
 or the death of the Potters somehow broke the spell. 

On to another subject that I've been meaning to address. I don't think
Sirius and Remus each thought the other was a spy, rather, each
suspected that the other MIGHT be a spy. That is a much more vague
suspicion than other people here are implying. 

If you think back on the times and the nature of the wizard world
during the first Voldemort war, it was pretty much common for
everybody to suspect everybody. When the Imperius Curse is causing so
many problems, even your most trusted friend still may not be able to
be trusted. 

None the less, both Lupin and Sirius remained in the Order, and that
implies a certain level of on-going trust in them by others, and in
them by each other.

In addition, after the fact, mild uncertainties and suspicions may
have indeed blossomed into larger and deeper suspicions. Vague
uncertain suspicions of the time might not have been enough for either
of them to alter their relationship with each other.

Just a few thoughts.

bboy_mn