Lily WAS muggle-born and what happened in CoS.

Cathy Drolet cldrolet at sympatico.ca
Mon Aug 2 11:12:37 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 108490

sad1199 here

"Now, a question. I have read these books through at least 5 times 
and I am an intelligent person but! I still don't understand WHY 
Dobby tried to prevent Harry from returning to Hogwarts. I mean, 
obviously, Dobby overheard his master talking about the diary and 
knew(?) he was going to give it to Ginny(or was that just luck that 
she got it?) and Dobby knew(?) who Tom Riddle was when most of the 
wizards in WW don't even know."

DuffyPoo:

My personal opinion is that LM was going to give the diary to HP, or why would Dobby have indicated that HP would be in mortal danger?  LM would have no idea that HP would come to GW's aid.  LM's purpose in giving HP the book was to have the CoS opened again and Mudbloods killed ( I think this was his reasoning).  HP's mortal danger would be: being caught and having his soul sucked out by Dementors.  I think GW got the diary as a last minute change of plan after a) the discussion between LM and Mr. Borgin about the New Muggle Protection Act, that Arthur Weasley is probably behind it, that LM has to get rid of certain items that may be embarrassing if found in his possession, combined with b) the fight with Mr. Weasley in Flourish and Blotts. LM had GW's used transfiguration book in his hands as the fight took place. 

sad1199 here:

"Does this tell us that Lucius Malfoy 
is MUCH closer to Voldemort than JKR has let on so far?"

DuffyPoo:

LV spoke to LM first, the very first, in the Graveyard scene in GoF.  Mr Weasley always believed that LM was in LV's 'inner circle.'  LV was there, front and centre, in the DoM when HP first got the prophecy orb.  I think LM is much closer to LV that we may know.  Much, MUCH closer, and very good at hiding it from people like Fudge.   (I've even wondered if it wasn't LM who was the eavesdropper at the Hog's Head, but haven't really had time to research the theory.  LM would have been about 25 at the time.)

sad1199 here
"Someone posted about a passage from Lucius' house to Hogwarts, is there 
direct canon on this or speculation? "

DuffyPoo:

No canon that I know of but that would have to be a heck of a long tunnel.  The Malfoy mansion is in "Wiltshire" appears to me to be a fair distance to anywhere in Scotland (no matter where in Scotland Hogwarts is supposed to be).  I haven't ruled something to do with the passage on the fourth floor behind the mirror that had been blocked since the winter of CoS.  Malfoy, Sr was so occupied with *something* that Christmas that darling Draco had to spend Christmas at Hogwarts.  After saying "I do feel so sorry for all those people who have to stay at Hogwarts for Christmas because they're not wanted at home." in PS, referring, of course to HP.  It's odd to me that no one in the school "last winter" felt any vibration from a tunnel collapse.  They wouldn't, however, if someone filled in the tunnel at the Hogwarts end, entering to do the job from the Hogsmeade end.  We don't know where that tunnel comes out in Hogsmeade (or area) but we know it does because F&G used it "until last winter" when it caved in.  (the winter of CoS).  Since HP couldn't use the tunnel, he didn't bother to follow it on the map to see where it came out, like he didn't know where the tunnel under the Whomping Willow came out either, because F&G said you can't use it.

sad1199 here
"AND house elves are obviously 
more intelligent than given credit for if Dobby knew who Harry even 
was. Wait, it says that house elves are intelligent, right? I am 
just very confused about the whole Dobby thing, any help would be 
appreciated."

DuffyPoo:

I think House-elves are quite intelligent and have very powerful magic of their own.  I can't think of any canon at the moment to show the intelligence part.  My brain's jammed.  (I can hear you all cheering! ;-)   )


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