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[snow15145]

No: HPFGUIDX 108688

Snow replying to Kneasy's post 108664:

We either think somewhat alike, Kneasy, or your brain waves are 
pretty strong because what I have been attempting to write about for 
the past several days has the same basic idea as your post, with a 
time-turner twist. I totally agree with you that the backlog to the 
story is where you will find the answer, which is where I went in 
writing this theory. Although I hate time turning purely because it 
is so difficult to explain, at least for me, the theory that I have 
written could be plausible without shifting the story we have seen so 
far. The following is the Time-Turner Tom Theory: 

What if Tom Riddle became Voldemort then sends himself back in time 
where he (call him X) begins his journey into ultimately becoming the 
Dark Lord. This time-traveling Voldemort or X, in search of 
immortality, finds a way in which to possess others. With each new 
possession he becomes stronger by sharing his victims talents and 
bodies until his next possessed victim. X has been sent back in time 
by Tom Riddle/Voldemort in an attempt to correct his own half-blooded 
future. 

X having reached a powerful state of being, chooses his ancestor for 
his next possession to ensure that his Tom Riddle status would be 
corrected into a pureblood wizard rather than the half-muggle he 
ended up becoming.  Salazar Slytherin appears to be content in his 
agreement about the houses when Hogwarts was originally founded, via 
the sorting hat songs. At some point he became obsessed with the 
notion of only allowing purebloods to be taught there. Here is where 
the possession idea may have ultimately begun. X, having previously 
been Tom Riddle, is attempting to alter his own past which began as 
his future self. Hence the quote from Tom Riddle that Voldemort is 
his past, present and future. It also fits with the controversial 
issue of Tom Riddle being the last ancestor of Salazar Slytherin.

When X possessed Salazar and confronted the other three founders of 
the school about only teaching purebloods, which they rejected, he 
began to realize that the three remaining founders might jeopardize 
his insurance of his future-self becoming pureblood. (assumption that 
Tom Riddle's mother attended Hogwarts and would have been taught 
pureblood prejudices against muggle interaction if Hogwarts only 
taught purebloods, which therefore would have assured himself against 
her marrying Tom Riddle Sr.) X was unable to convince the other three 
founders into his way of thought, so, X would have to alter his plan 
by building the Chamber of Secrets for his future self to find. X 
having once been Tom Riddle knew where the future Tom Riddle would 
look for information and supplied it for him.  

X needs to possess many people in his wait for his future-self to be 
born to reconnect with and become the ultimate wizard. The first 
downfall was X's possession of Grindlewald who was defeated by 
Dumbledore. (Vague interlude) Then in X's triumphant moment he 
reunited, via the Chamber, with his future-self
(reconnection with 
future-self)
 thus his first horrid reign of power
until
 the 
prophecy prediction. X could have been superior until the point where 
the prophecy came into play, where I believe Dumbledore intervened 
having already recognized his opponent in his defeat of Grindlewald.
COS "Very few people know that Lord Voldemort was once called Tom 
Riddle
"

Side note: Why does Dumbledore always seem to know, possibly because 
he has already seen X and had dealt with X in his defeat of 
Grindlewald. Dumbledore may have recognized what Tom Riddle had 
done.  

Dumbledore does have a plan, as if we haven't all pretty much 
realized this, he knows that if Harry should fail all is lost. 
Dumbledore allows Harry to face, what is ultimately the other half of 
X that resides in Harry because if X ever should reunite with the 
rest of himself that's in Harry, X may never be totally vanquished. 
If in the Ministry, when Voldemort enticed Dumbledore into killing 
Harry (while Voldemort was possessing him), Dumbledore would have 
killed the body of Harry, but X would not have been destroyed but 
unified once again with that missing part of himself that was in 
Harry. 

The only way in which X can become "greater and more terrible than 
ever he was", as Trelawney's second prophecy stated, would be if X 
can reunite once again with the other half of him that is in Harry. 
If you look at Trelawney's second prophecy and substitute Dark Lord 
as X with servant being Tom Riddle, who has been chained these twelve 
years, this is not such a discountable theory. 

Let's take a look at Trelawney's second theory with Dark Lord and 
servant replaced respectively by X and Tom Riddle:

The Dark Lord (X) lies alone and friendless, abandoned by his 
followers. His servant (Tom Riddle) has been chained these twelve 
years. (Remember it has, at the point this prophecy was made, been 
twelve years since Voldemort attempted the AK on Harry, Harry doesn't 
turn 13 for a few months) Tonight, before midnight
the servant (Tom 
Riddle) will break free and set out (set out) to rejoin his master. 
The Dark Lord (X) will rise again with his servant's aid, (Tom 
Riddles aid) greater and more terrible than ever he was. Tonight

before midnight 
the servant
will set out
to rejoin
his master
" 

Why all the breaks in the last sentence? My favorite break in 
supporting this theory is: 
will set out
 This segment being 
separated means, to me, that this statement is not literal but 
paused, as if an attempt was made to
 it doesn't enforce the fact 
that they came together only that he set out
to rejoin
his master 
with a bit of help from Pettigrew who brought X back to a semi-solid 
state. When Pettigrew nursed X back to this somewhat solid state, the 
connection between X (having part of Tom Riddle) and the part of Tom 
Riddle that is in Harry became pronounced. [In an attempt to allow 
you to understand what I am trying so desperately to represent, it is 
like Frodo putting on the ring, in LOTR, when Frodo put on the ring 
(even though it was always with him, it was undetectable until he put 
it on) the rafes (sic) could sense the presence of the ring only when 
it was physically on Frodo.] In the case with Harry, the portion of 
Tom Riddle that is within X could not be strongly felt by the other 
part of him in Harry until X came back to a somewhat solid state. The 
last part of this second prophecy has not yet been realized. The Dark 
Lord with his reconnection to the other part of Tom Riddle will 
become greater and more terrible that ever. This can only happen if 
the Dark Lord kills Harry and releases the part of Tom Riddle in him. 


Let's take a look at the first, annoying prophesy and see how this 
theory fits:

"The one (Harry) with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord (X) 
approaches
 Born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the 
seventh month dies
and the Dark Lord (X) will mark him as his equal, 
(by instilling in Harry part of Tom Riddle, Harry becomes equal to 
X's half of Tom Riddle) but he will have power the Dark Lord (X) 
knows not
 and either (X or Harry) must die at the hand (figure of 
speech, not actually meaning killed by but cant truly live with just 
half of the Tom Riddle in each of them) of the other (the link 
between them, which is Tom Riddle) for neither (Harry nor X) can live 
while the other (Tom Riddle) survives
" 


If Harry can recognize that half of Tom Riddle that is inside of him 
(through force, not choice...therefore there is no direct connection) 
and can destroy his half, the other half of Tom Riddle (connected, 
willingly), to the Dark Lord Voldemort will die also because he had 
been willingly connected. If Voldemort can kill Harry it will set 
free the half of Tom Riddle that is in Harry to reunite with his 
half.