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No: HPFGUIDX 108705

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "snow15145" <snow15145 at y...> wrote:
> Snow replying to Kneasy's post 108664:
> 
> We either think somewhat alike, Kneasy, or your brain waves are 
> pretty strong because what I have been attempting to write about for 
> the past several days has the same basic idea as your post, with a 
> time-turner twist. 
> 
> What if Tom Riddle became Voldemort then sends himself back in time 
> where he (call him X) begins his journey into ultimately becoming the 
> Dark Lord. This time-traveling Voldemort or X, in search of 
> immortality, finds a way in which to possess others. With each new 
> possession he becomes stronger by sharing his victims talents and 
> bodies until his next possessed victim. X has been sent back in time 
> by Tom Riddle/Voldemort in an attempt to correct his own half-blooded 
> future. 
> huge snip>
> 
> Dumbledore does have a plan, as if we haven't all pretty much 
> realized this, he knows that if Harry should fail all is lost. 
> Dumbledore allows Harry to face, what is ultimately the other half of 
> X that resides in Harry because if X ever should reunite with the 
> rest of himself that's in Harry, X may never be totally vanquished. 
> If in the Ministry, when Voldemort enticed Dumbledore into killing 
> Harry (while Voldemort was possessing him), Dumbledore would have 
> killed the body of Harry, but X would not have been destroyed but 
> unified once again with that missing part of himself that was in 
> Harry. 
> 
> The only way in which X can become "greater and more terrible than 
> ever he was", as Trelawney's second prophecy stated, would be if X 
> can reunite once again with the other half of him that is in Harry. 
> If you look at Trelawney's second prophecy and substitute Dark Lord 
> as X with servant being Tom Riddle, who has been chained these twelve 
> years, this is not such a discountable theory. 
> huge snip>
> 
> If Harry can recognize that half of Tom Riddle that is inside of him 
> (through force, not choice...therefore there is no direct connection) 
> and can destroy his half, the other half of Tom Riddle (connected, 
> willingly), to the Dark Lord Voldemort will die also because he had 
> been willingly connected. If Voldemort can kill Harry it will set 
> free the half of Tom Riddle that is in Harry to reunite with his 
> half.

Hope I haven't done too much damage with the snipping, but I try
to give a response at least as long as the piece I'm quoting.
Not sure if I can manage it this time, though.

Firstly you may have noticed that I stay away from TT threads -
that's because I dislike them intensely. I'm one of  those who
consider then as an authorial  cop-out - there are very, very
few writers who can make them work satisfactorily; off-hand I
can only think of Ken Grimwood's 'Replay' as one I'd read again.
And I get very cynical about SF on TV resorting to TT - I suspect
that economising on sets and props and the barren-ness of the
script-writers imagination has much to do with the frequency
with which they turn up (or return up).

Putting my prejudices aside - you've  put your finger on a point
that I've wondered about before - DD. You're right - he does
seem to have fore-knowledge of events, he does on occasion
seem to have had a peep  at the script. Sometimes his reactions
to  events are just plain wrong; they don't fit unless he already
knew about what has just happened.

So  far I've rationalised this by postulating that his plan *is* the
result of fore-knowledge - he sees his plan in it's entirety and
he makes damn sure it runs on rails - no deviations allowed,
though I think he's about to hit a rocky patch. Where this fore-
knowledge comes from, I'm none too sure, but I hope like hell it
ain't TT or I'll be banging on the bookshop counter demanding
my money back.

You may also be right about Voldy  wanting to be 'whole' or it
(the fight in the Ministry) might have been an attempt to con DD
into destroying Weapon!Harry - the WW's best bet as Voldy!Bane.

You've obviously put a lot of thought into  this one and I'm only
sorry I can't be more enthusiastic about it. It deserves discussion, 
but I'd only try and change it into something else - which would 
be bloody annoying for you and unfair of  me.

Meanwhile I'll keep my fingers crossed that I'm right and you're
wrong.

Kneasy