To Where To When (TimeTurning that may make sense)

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 108763


> Josh: 
> I unfortunately have to discount the idea of TimeTurning!DD
(Re: OOtP DOM) If DD had ready access to timetravel, he would not 
have delayed that much in getting to what appeared to be an 
impending faceoff between Harry and LV.
> 

Valky replies:
It's interesting that you reply this way. And sadly I beg to differ.
I am certain that DD *does* have ready access to timetravel among 
his many possessions, and uses it, but he cannot change what is 
past. Harry was *at* the MOM and that was past and certainly 
couldn't be changed. 

If Dumbledore stopped to timeturn between talking with Kreacher and 
going to the MoM, then just going to the MOM a few minutes earlier 
would be a fools errand, because at this point he really doesn't 
know precisely what is going on there. DD would put more thought 
than that into a timeturned event, I'm sure. 

To wit, DD arrived in the exact moment required to save Harry, he 
lost Sirius but he saved Harry. The tears are certainly for Harry's 
pain but I don't think DD would have factored whats going to happen 
to Sirius, if he timeturned he would have focussed all his efforts 
on whats going to happen to Harry. And given that equation, the 
notion that DD might use a timeturner to undo his delay in getting 
to the MOM cannot be discounted.


Josh:
> > 1 Who broke into Gringotts in PS/SS and attempted to take the 
Stone. 
The answer, I think, comes at the end of CoS. DD reveals to Harry 
that his sources have told him that LV has been hiding in Albania 
(spreading the cheer with Mom so no books handy). What sources? 
Perhaps DD has had tabs on LV all this time?
>

Valky some more:

The answer at the end of COS is not the answer at the beginning of 
PS/SS. DD says his sources place him in Albania two years later. 
*After* DD becomes aware that LV's intentions to rejoin wizarding 
civilisation are at hand. Prior to this in PS/SS early chapters the 
*tabs* are failing DD because LV's latest deputy is walking the 
corridors of Hogwarts, having the Dark Lord's vapour essence 
attached to his cerebellum, apparently unbeknownst to DD. 

DD's 'sources may anyhoo *be* timeturned personages, this we do not 
know. And *that* is precisely my postulation.

Josh: 
> > 2. How did it 'become clear' to Dumbledore to return to Hogwarts 
> > when he was in London at the end of PS/SS. 
> 
> Again, the secret may lie in CoS. Harry's Hogwarts letter not only 
> happens to find him at he Burrow, but it has been delivered by 
Errol (not the fastest owl in the world). Again, it might seem that 
> Dumbledore has extra tabs on Harry, and thus realized the moral 
peril Harry was facing. He might have flown to London, but coming 
back was probably apparition or portkey.
> 

Valky:
I agree with your second statement but not your first. Simply 
because it is what we are given to assume and I just refuse to take 
even the most gilded assumptions JKR hands us for granted. She coats 
them thick with easy sugar right before she whips away the spoon and 
reminds us *assume nothing!*

Best to you Josh
Thanks for your reply.