To Where To When (TimeTurning that may make sense)

[Cathy Drolet]

No: HPFGUIDX 108795

Valky 

"1 Who broke into Gringotts in PS/SS and attempted to take the Stone. 
We are given to assume, that QuirrelMort was the culprit. However, 
what if he was aware the stone was being transported to Hogwarts, 
already?
It might have taken him sometime to aquire the troll. 
And even if it was QuirrelMort after the stone in London, Who foiled 
them? Who might have known that they would be there? Certainly noone 
suspected them in these early chapters of the books.
A peripheral event that *did* happen and as yet *no actual culprits*.
Therefore if I were an experienced TimeMastering Wizard I might be 
inclined to suspect that something has happened in *time*. Such as 
if I were DD and didn't already know what had happened, which he 
might.
Does everyone get what I mean here? The imperative is the 
identification, then you can say hmmm there *might* be 'time' there.


DuffyPoo now:
It was all in the Daily Prophet: "Investigations continue into the break-in at Gringotts on 31 July, widely believed to be the work of Dark wizards or witches unknown.  Gringotts' goblins today insisted that nothing had been taken.  The vault that was searched had in fact been emptied the same day." It would have to be Dark witches or wizards, who else would be able to get past the door "He stroked the door gently with one of his long fingers and it simply melted away. 'If anyone but a Gringotts goblin tried that, they'd be sucked through the door and trapped in there,' said Griphook."  Quirrell is the one who broke into Gringotts because he says so, "When I failed to steal the stone from Gringotts, he (LV) was most displeased." No one 'foiled' them. Quirrel got in, opened the vault (Dark Magic, Quirrell is the DADA teacher after all), found the stone gone and left.  What the Goblins had to go on was the open vault or some Dark Wizard Catcher device going off - a sneakoscope perhaps? 

Valky again:
2. How did it 'become clear' to Dumbledore to return to Hogwarts 
when he was in London at the end of PS/SS. It might have been an 
intuition or realisation of present facts, and ordinarily we could 
just dismiss it as one such. However since I have already placed 
time events in London in PS/SS I am beginning to suspect London in 
PS/SS is somewhere that the story may go.
The short theory is that DD goes to London *because* something fishy 
*is* going down there, but when he arrives and realises that what's 
going on there is all future, he rushes back recognising that his 
place is in the present. 

DuffyPoo:
DD is 'supposed' to be a bright man.  Intuition is a great thing when it's followed.  Or, look at it this way.  DD arrives in London after being summoned "He received an urgent owl from the Ministry of Magic." However, once he gets to the MoM and finds the one who sent the 'urgent owl' they have no idea why DD is there because they never sent an owl.  It 'became clear' to DD that he was sent to London by someone trying to lure him away from the castle and immediately head's back to Hogwarts.


Josh

"Again, the secret may lie in CoS. Harry's Hogwarts letter not only 
happens to find him at he Burrow, but it has been delivered by Errol 
(not the fastest owl in the world). Again, it might seem that 
Dumbledore has extra tabs on Harry, and thus realized the moral peril 
Harry was facing. He might have flown to London, but coming back was 
probably apparition or portkey."

DuffyPoo:
The Hogwarts letters weren't delivered by Errol that morning at the Burrow.   Errol had Hermione's reply to Ron's letter.  He had flown through the window (presumably before all were up) and flopped into the chair that Percy, later, nearly sat on. Hogwarts letters have always been delivered by school owls as far as we know.  

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