Chapter 24: Occlumency
huntergreen_3
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Wed Aug 4 14:44:30 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 108810
Huntergreen previously:
> Personally, I don't think another teacher would have had much more
> luck than Snape unless they were able to convince Harry that he
> *needed* the skill (which, after the Arthur/snake incident, I don't
> blame Harry for having misgivings about blocking his mind).
SSSusan replied:
>> While I agree with you that Harry would have be greatly helped by
having someone *fully* explain why he needed to block the visions he
was having, I disagree with you somewhat about how it might have gone
with another teacher.
[snip]
As far as we know, there's no one else on staff capable of teaching
Harry, so it came to Snape. *If* Flitwick or McGonagall, for
instance, had been able, though, I also think Harry would have been
more successful simply because the build-up of angry emotion wouldn't
have been there. <<
HunterGreen:
I definitely agree that teaching such a sensitive skill would have
been better handled by a teacher who Harry didn't detest (and who
didn't detest him better), but I don't think it would have made too
much of a difference. Most of Harry's failure with Occulmency had to
do with him not taking it seriously. We don't know if practicing
outside of the lessons would have made a difference, but it could
have for all we know since Harry never bothered.
The emotional aspect of learning from Snape made Harry afraid for him
to find out he wasn't practicing outside of class, but apparently
that wasn't enough for him to actually work at it. Another teacher
wouldn't even have that (although there's some evidence that guilt
works better on Harry than fear).
Snape doesn't really tell Harry what to do, and you're right in
saying that Harry doesn't ask questions simply because its Snape and
he was not really open to questions. However, that might have been
because there wasn't anything more Snape could tell him. He does
compare occulmency to throwing off the imperious curse. If you were
trying to "teach" someone that, what could you tell them? Not much.
Its really more of practice: having the curse put on over and over
again until its possible to recoginize and ignore it. That's sort of
what Snape was doing, he was using obvious legimency on Harry over
and over until Harry learned how to block it.
As for the build-up of angry emotion, I think that was necessary in
*actually* teaching it to Harry. Otherwise there'd be no assurance
he'd be able to do it outside of controlled conditions. The
comparison I think of is Hermione and Cho learning how to do the
patronus charm without learning how to do it when a dementor is
around. Harry learned it against the boggart!dementor, which is much
harder.
IMO occulmency was doomed to fail. Harry is at an age where
biologically he is prone to having far more emotions running through
him than an adult. Not only that, in order for occulmency to be any
good to him he needs to know how to block his mind at night when he's
asleep (which would be a rather thorough mastery of the skill), which
is quite different than doing it consciously. The better solution
would have been for Dumbledore to have just told him the truth then.
Then Harry could just ignore any dreams he might have that are
calling him to the DoM.
Asking a fifteen-year-old boy to master such a precise and difficult
skill in a matter of months is just too much. Even if Harry had been
mildly successful, I doubt he would have learned it well enough by
the end of the term (which was only six after he started lessons in
it) to block his mind while sleeping. He still would have had the
dream calling him to the DoM in June.
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