To Where To When (TimeTurning that may make sense)

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 108943

Valky:
> > a.1: The second attack; Dumbledore is the one who discovers 
Colin Creevey petrified. Colin is on his way up from the Great Hall 
to the third floor and DD is on his way down the staircases to the 
Kitchens from his office. 


> Josh:
> ["Another attack," said Dumbledore. "Minerva found him on the 
> stairs."] Minerva was first on the scene, and I'd say just worried 
about her own ability to survive this monster... what is her blood 
status I wonder? 

Valky:
Drats! Don't you just hate that! I misread those signs oops.
I don't know about Macgonagalls Blood Status but that *is* a really 
good question. And do you suppose that DD coming down the stairs 
scared the Basilisk away?
I thought of a use for the grapes however. I imagined DD floating 
them in the Hallway knowing that CC was coming and about to face the 
Basilisk. Colin sees the grapes floating in the Hallway and being of 
muggle descent is entirely fascinated so tries to take a picture to 
send home to the family. Basilisk comes round the corner and Colin 
looks up startled camera still shielding his eyes. LOL!

Anyways DD was still in close proximity to the attack so I am not 
sunk yet, I think.


Josh:
If Dumbledore had known anything, he wouldn't have needed the 
> camera. 

Valky:
But he *did* need the camera for some reason. He prised it from 
Colins hands, and opened it. Minerva asks him 'What does this mean', 
and he answers: 'it means that the Chamber of Secrets is indeed 
open'. So the burned out camera is confirmation of something that DD 
wasn't sure about. 
A camera is an ideal opportunity to find out if the basilisk is real 
or fake. If its fake there will be a photo of someone casting a 
spell on Colin in the camera, and if it is a real Basilisk then the 
camera will protect Colin. 
Yet still I see what you mean DD would not have seen the Basilisk 
attack because if he had he wouldn't need to look inside the camera.
I trip myself thinking about it. 

Josh:
Screw the object causing the possession, an unpossessed Ginny would 
have those memories intact (DD would know this having studies the 
Dark Arts, but being too noble to use them (according to MM in 
PS/SS)).
>

Valky:
Yes I see what you mean here also. You're right of course DD 
probably didn't know about Ginny at this stage. and it does seem to 
confirm that Ginny is not beside the Basilisk when it attacks.
Ohhh sigh its all unravelled again.  


Valky previously:
> > Basically saying that a wise person such as Dumbledore simply 
would not TT to anywhere with a plan involving guesswork especially 
not in a school full of children. 


>Josh: 
> Umm, but DD doesn't need a Cloak to become invisible. Surely 
nothing was a complicated and full of danger as the PoA time trip 
for Harry and Hermione? Dementors all around, a werewolf going wild, 
and a D.E. running loose... and that's just the last 5 minutes! And 
yet, DD sent them back for a single 3 hr period... no worries, just 
follow your footsteps (now that's a clue that he has turned on 
occasion)

Valky:
Yeah, I'm aware of the obvious clues that he *has* timeturned I am 
just looking for context where it makes a great deal of sense that 
it has happened. Especially ones that look to us like Buckbeak 
dissappearing looked to Dumbledore. Somehow I managed to walk so far 
down COS lane instead.... sigh .... 



Josh:
DD wouldn't need to make multiple jumps, he'd just need to 
disillusion himself, or better if he knows how, and go back too far 
on purpose. He if knows the where... nothing else matters.  If he'd 
guessed it was a Basilisk (G&F at least suspected it was a fanged 
something or 'nother while needling Percy), then all he had to do 
was go to the right spot, and  close his eyes... then follow. 
Perhaps recruit Fawkes to help (he seemed immune)?
> 
> Or better yet... go bring in some fresh roosters!

Valky:
Pffffffft. The last of the air out of my balloon. Maybe......
Know any good hiding spots. ;P

Incedentally since you *are* so observant any help on the signs that 
someone timeturns in the future books?

Best to You
Valky