The Timing of Lupin WAS Re: Dumbledore and Lupin

[Cathy Drolet]

No: HPFGUIDX 109190

> Kneasy:
> "Fudge, who just happened to be at Azkaban the night before Sirius escapes,
> (pure coincidence of course - and if you believe that you might want to buy
> this 100% genuine gold brick) has loosed the Dementors."
> 
> DuffyPoo:
> Hmm...my book doesn't say anywhere that Fudge was at Azkaban 'the night before' 
Sirius escaped.  

Kneasy;
>>>Oh yes it does.
Arthur says so in chap. 4.
"...because Fudge wanted to keep it quiet, but Fudge went out to 
Azkaban the night Sirius escaped."<<<

DuffyPoo:
I stand corrected.  But you have to read the rest as well.  "..but Fudge went out to Azkaban the night Black escaped.  The guards told Fudge that Black's been talking in his sleep for a while now."  He went to Azkaban 'after' Black escaped to talk to the Dementors about how it could have possibly happened.  No one was supposed to be able to escape.  When he gave the paper to Black, it was while Fudge was doing his inspection, not the same night at all.  "But then I saw Peter in that picture ... I realized he was at Hogwarts with Harry .. perfectly positioned to act.......it was an obsession...it gave me strength, it cleared my mind.  So, *one* night when they opened my door to bring food, I slipped past them as a dog."  *One* night, not 'that night'...not the same night as Fudge was there to inspect Azkaban and handed him the Daily Prophet.  

> DuffyPoo:
> You've forgotten Lee Jordan's giant tarantula that he brought with him in his third year. 
>
Kneasy:
"No, I hadn't. But something in a matchbox is hardly a magical pet."

DuffyPoo again:
"'Give us a look, Lee, go on.'" The boy lifted the lid of a *box in his arms* and the people around him shrieked and yelled as something inside poked out a long, hairy leg."  A box in his arms with a lid is a matchbox?  I agree with those who say "owl, rat, or toad" is simply a reminder to bring only one pet.  Lee was bringing his *giant* tarantula.  (Wonder if Ron knew it was in the Gryffindor Tower?) Apart from numerous owls, Crookshanks, Trevor and Scabbers, we don't know what kind of weird magical or non magical critters are at the school.  

DuffyPoo: 
> I can't believe that DD knew Scabbers was PP for at least eight years and did nothing 
about it.  We can't forget that DD didn't know about the three unregistered animagi 
running around Hogwarts, or are you saying he turned a blind eye to them? 

Kneasy:
"Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Do you really think Lupin was locked up in a shed every month and 
nobody checked up  on him? A caring headmaster like DD? Tut, tut."

DuffyPoo again:
I see, from another post of yours, that you're a "Dumbledore's a bad guy" theorist.  I just don't buy it.  I agree with Aggie, here: "Aggie:
Umm  Yes!! Call me naive but it *was* my impression that DD *didn't* 
know that the Marauders were animagi.  He says so in PoA and I 
believe that DD doesn't mislead us."  While I'm not sure I agree that DD doesn't mislead, I at least don't think he misleads on purpose, "Sirius told me all about how they became Animagi last night," said Dumbledore smiling. "An extraordinary achievement -- not least, keeping it quiet from me."  

I also agree with Sue who said: "If he did know Peter was alive and where he was, why wasn't he
fighting to get Sirius out of Azkaban? Even Lupin thought Sirius had done it until the night
at the Shrieking Shack - he said so - and he was one of Sirius's two best friends.  if
I thought DD was really so heartless as to let a man he believed innocent rot in Azkaban
without even *trying* to help and then hired Lupin only to keep an eye on Harry, I'd be very
disappointed in him."  What a horrible character JKR would be portraying if DD truly did this kind of thing.  

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