The Timing of Lupin WAS Re: Dumbledore and Lupin

[drliss at comcast.net]

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> Kneasy:
> A name on a map does not make Peter innocent. 
> It just makes him alive. It provides an opportunity to ask 
questions,
> questions which are never  asked. Lupin puts words in Sirius' 
mouth,
> Sirius doesn't have to say a damn thing. So who told Lupin? DD?

Jen: Technically, it wouldn't take much advanced critical thinking 
for Lupin to put two & two together here. He sees Peter is alive and 
has to ask himself, how & why? Didn't Peter die a hero trying to 
take on Sirius all by himself? Well, hold on then, if he was still 
alive after facing Sirius, why hide when Sirius is safe behind bars 
at Azkaban & miss out on all the hero-worship? 
Unless....unless....things aren't as they seem and Peter was trying 
to hide something. But what? 

If you couple Lupin's musings with the shred of doubt he felt that 
Sirius would ever betray James, it would all fall in place pretty 
quickly. He realizes Sirius is here after Peter, not Harry, and the 
next leap to make is that reason Sirius is after Peter is Peter is 
the guilty one.

Lupin, after all, knows these guys like the back of his hand. He's 
seen Reckless!Sirius before and Wimpy!Peter; this 'new' reality of 
Peter as betrayer and Sirius out to avenge James' death would fit 
better in Lupin's mind than the old story. 

That's how I see it, anyway.  Jen


Lissa:

Jen, I'm totally with you on this one.  For a guy as smart as Lupin- and Lupin is definitely a pretty smart guy- as the pieces fall into place it's not that hard to put together.  He's a calm, rational, reasonable person overall.  Add to that that JKR has said that Lupin tends to be too forgiving of his friends, and you can see where he'd be ready to listen.

The fact that he disarms Harry before doing a thing about Sirius I think served other purposes:
1.) I think JKR was setting up for the "this isn't as it seems."  Lupin coming across there as ESE when that goes against everything Harry knows about him is the first sign of "something's not right here."  
2.) Lupin is Sirius's opposite in at least one way, and that is he actually thinks before he does anything.  Disarming Harry doesn't mean he's ready to let Sirius go free- just that he's ready to listen before Sirius is killed.
3.) Bringing her own personal favorite theory back into it, I think one of the reasons Lupin was so quick to take Sirius's side or at least to listen is because that was what he wanted to do.  I'm still utterly sold on the pair of them having been an item, and Remus never being fully able to deal with the betrayal, or understand it.  Love can make you do some stupid things, and I think in this case his initial reaction was to protect the person he loved.  He cares about Harry, yes, but those feelings simply don't rival the feelings he has for Sirius.  (Even if you go with deep bond of friendship, this still works.  But I'm a romantic ;) )

I do agree that just a name on a map doesn't make Peter innocent, but hey- that's part of why Lupin wanted it all spelled out before he killed Peter.

As far as Dumbledore goes, I think he WAS clueless about the marauders becoming Animagi, and he didn't realize that Peter was living in Hogwarts all the time.  Granted, I base this entirely on the fact he said so, but not everyone can be lying to Harry ;)

Lissa
 

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