Villainy

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Aug 9 13:35:54 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109438

Kneasy wrote:
>    So -  an outline for an evil villain:-    

Pippin:
Kneasy, you do realize you've described EverSoEvil!Lupin to the 
toenail, don't you? People will think it's a conspiracy!

Kneasy:
> Understandable and/or credible ambitions that appear  
achievable.  An original motivation that rings true (animus to your 
father turning    one into a world tyrant just doesn't hack it).<
 

Pippin:
How about breaking or discrediting the wizarding hegemony? 

"I mean, it's the same kind of nonsense as werewolf 
segregation, isn't it? It all stems from this horrible thing wizards 
have of thinking they're superior to other creatures."-Hermione, to 
Lupin, OOP ch9

Kneasy:
 >   Intelligence in the villain predicates intelligent actions
within the    plot

Pippin:
ESE!Lupin has plotted quite intelligently so far. Nobody has even 
suspected him, apart from James and Sirius, and look what 
happened to them. And Snape of course, but he suspects 
everybody. I foresee a juicy episode in Book Seven where Harry 
will have to decide whether to trust Lupin or Snape. He will make 
the wrong choice and  pay dearly for it.

Kneasy:  
> Why concentrate solely on the hero? Why not knock off the 
hero's     friends and supporters? That really would be evil and 
there are too    many Weasleys anyway.<

Pippin:
Lupin:" - look, I can't promise no one's going to get hurt, nobody 
can promise that, but we're much better off than we were last 
time. You weren't in the Order then, you don't understand. Last 
time we were outnumbered twenty to one by the Death Eaters 
and they were picking us off one by one..." OOP ch 9 

Wanna bet?

Kneasy:
  > Nasty habits that chime with primitive personal fears. War 
doesn't do    it, it's not aimed at you the reader *personally*; but 
imagining being    ripped open and having your heart eaten can 
make your toes curl. So    could selling Ginny to the Goblins as 
sushi-on-the-hoof, but    controlling Belgium is a yawn.<

Pippin:
Werewolf. Nuff said.

Kneasy:
   > Ranting and posturing is out. Cold and implacable is in.   He 
might be  a nutter, but if he doesn't *appear* to be reasonable    
how's he going to attract followers?<

Pippin:
No ranting and posturing from Lupin. He barely raises his voice. 
However, rousing the rabble requires a certain amount of rabble 
rousing. Fortunately there are others to do that for him. Lucius 
can organize the rallies.

Kneasy:
 >  Potential problems will be foreseen and taken into account.   
He's supposed to be bright, isn't he?<

Pippin:
ESE!Lupin's worry over potential problems is signified by his 
Boggart. ?That's no moon, it's a space station... er, prophecy orb 
<veg>

Kneasy:
 > If he intends "taking over" he must have some idea of why he 
wants it    and what he's going to do with it when he's got it. 
Anybody know? It    would help greatly if the reader knew what it 
was that Harry was    actually saving from his evil clutches.

   If he captures or corners the hero,  expect the hero to die except 
in    *very* exceptional one-off circumstances. (The conflict of 
wands works    for Harry vs Voldy;  Harry also escaping the 
ravening horde of DEs    doesn't wash.)<

Pippin:
--ahhh, but ESE!Lupin *wants* Harry to get away. Only Harry can 
destroy Voldemort, n'est-ce pas? But he mustn't do it until 
Voldemort has drawn together that army of creatures whom all 
fear and wiped out organized wizardry.

Pippin

ESE!Lupin debuted in post 39362
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