Villainy
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Aug 9 13:35:54 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109438
Kneasy wrote:
> So - an outline for an evil villain:-
Pippin:
Kneasy, you do realize you've described EverSoEvil!Lupin to the
toenail, don't you? People will think it's a conspiracy!
Kneasy:
> Understandable and/or credible ambitions that appear
achievable. An original motivation that rings true (animus to your
father turning one into a world tyrant just doesn't hack it).<
Pippin:
How about breaking or discrediting the wizarding hegemony?
"I mean, it's the same kind of nonsense as werewolf
segregation, isn't it? It all stems from this horrible thing wizards
have of thinking they're superior to other creatures."-Hermione, to
Lupin, OOP ch9
Kneasy:
> Intelligence in the villain predicates intelligent actions
within the plot
Pippin:
ESE!Lupin has plotted quite intelligently so far. Nobody has even
suspected him, apart from James and Sirius, and look what
happened to them. And Snape of course, but he suspects
everybody. I foresee a juicy episode in Book Seven where Harry
will have to decide whether to trust Lupin or Snape. He will make
the wrong choice and pay dearly for it.
Kneasy:
> Why concentrate solely on the hero? Why not knock off the
hero's friends and supporters? That really would be evil and
there are too many Weasleys anyway.<
Pippin:
Lupin:" - look, I can't promise no one's going to get hurt, nobody
can promise that, but we're much better off than we were last
time. You weren't in the Order then, you don't understand. Last
time we were outnumbered twenty to one by the Death Eaters
and they were picking us off one by one..." OOP ch 9
Wanna bet?
Kneasy:
> Nasty habits that chime with primitive personal fears. War
doesn't do it, it's not aimed at you the reader *personally*; but
imagining being ripped open and having your heart eaten can
make your toes curl. So could selling Ginny to the Goblins as
sushi-on-the-hoof, but controlling Belgium is a yawn.<
Pippin:
Werewolf. Nuff said.
Kneasy:
> Ranting and posturing is out. Cold and implacable is in. He
might be a nutter, but if he doesn't *appear* to be reasonable
how's he going to attract followers?<
Pippin:
No ranting and posturing from Lupin. He barely raises his voice.
However, rousing the rabble requires a certain amount of rabble
rousing. Fortunately there are others to do that for him. Lucius
can organize the rallies.
Kneasy:
> Potential problems will be foreseen and taken into account.
He's supposed to be bright, isn't he?<
Pippin:
ESE!Lupin's worry over potential problems is signified by his
Boggart. ?That's no moon, it's a space station... er, prophecy orb
<veg>
Kneasy:
> If he intends "taking over" he must have some idea of why he
wants it and what he's going to do with it when he's got it.
Anybody know? It would help greatly if the reader knew what it
was that Harry was actually saving from his evil clutches.
If he captures or corners the hero, expect the hero to die except
in *very* exceptional one-off circumstances. (The conflict of
wands works for Harry vs Voldy; Harry also escaping the
ravening horde of DEs doesn't wash.)<
Pippin:
--ahhh, but ESE!Lupin *wants* Harry to get away. Only Harry can
destroy Voldemort, n'est-ce pas? But he mustn't do it until
Voldemort has drawn together that army of creatures whom all
fear and wiped out organized wizardry.
Pippin
ESE!Lupin debuted in post 39362
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