Harry's B-day Re: Riddle and Grindelwald in 1945 - Again

[Cathy Drolet]

No: HPFGUIDX 109549

RMM:
"And if the text was left to just that, I would agree 100%.  However, 
Jim the weatherman also mentions that Bonfire Night doesn't occur 
until next week.
Jim said this on a Tuesday, and if Tuesday is November 1st, since it 
was the night before that Voldemort killed the Potters, then Bonfire 
Night would be Saturday.  Is Saturday considered part of "next 
week"?  Or is it considered part of "the weekend"?

Secondly, Hagrid, Harry, nor ANYONE else is mourning the loss of 
Harry's parents on the Halloween celebrations that are occurring 
during the 5 books.  Not a single mention is made of the anniversary 
of Harry's loss.  Nor for that matter is the BIG event of Voldemort's 
downfall celebrated on any of those Halloweens."


DuffyPoo:
Where in the world do you live, RMM?  My weathermen/newscasters/sportscasters make mistakes all the time.  If I paid strict attention, I could venture a guess and say at least once a day on the 6 o'clock news, alone.  Perhaps, just perhaps, JKR has Jim, the weatherman, saying, 'Perhaps people have been celebrating Bonfire Night early -- it's not until next week, folks," intentionally, as a diversion, or to show that weathermen make mistakes, too!  A red herring if you like. You see, as I'm sure you've guessed, I think Hagrid is smart enough (much as Umbridge probably thinks he is not...half-breed and all that) that he knows what day he took Harry from the rubble.  Perhaps he had to leave, or miss, the Hogwarts Hallowe'en celebrations to go get him.  He knows the attack was on Hallowe'en or why tell HP so...he's not confunded or confused by other celebrations.  The celebrations over LV's 'demise' didn't start until after Hagrid rescued Harry.  Jim McGuffin aside, Hagrid WAS THERE!  

I don't celebrate/mourn/whatever else it could possibly be called the day my parents died and I knew them for 34 and 37 years.  HP didn't really 'know' his parents.  Mourning would be pointless in his case.  Why, on earth, would anyone else in the school mourn James and Lily's deaths?  Why would anyone, DD in particular, want to remind HP of his parents' deaths every year?  He wouldn't.  Nobody is mouring the loss of anybody on any date.  Not just Hallowe'en.  Neville has the most to mourn here, his parents no longer recognize him, and we don't see him crying all over the school, heck, apart from HP, none of the rest of his friends knew anything about his parents until mid-fifth year.  (Interesting to note that Arthur had never mentioned this to Ron/Ginny.)  

As most people in the WW don't truly believe LV's 'really, truly, once and for all, gone' I'm not surprised they're not celebrating. Most wizards/witches are still afraid of speaking his name lest it bring him back from where-ever he's at, why throw a party in his honour and truly 'tempt fate?'  What if he showed up in the middle of the party? We also have to remember that there are children in the school who would be celebrating James and Lily's demise, despising 'the boy who lived', mourning LV's downfall, and wouldn't want to participate in a celebration of LV's 'passing,' on Hallowe'en or any other day.

While Professor McGonagall said that, "I wouldn't be surprised if today [Nov 1st] was known as Harry Potter day in future," it obviously hasn't happened yet - so there's no reason to celebrate.  Especially now that "He's baaack!"   What may well be celebrated, though, is whatever day LV is vanquished for good by whoever does it. 



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