Molly-- Thoughts on a witch
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Aug 10 19:52:42 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109593
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Josh Warren"
<wjwarren4269 at c...> wrote:
>
> Ok, I'll back off on the terminology. Molly and every other adult
> has, in OotP, come out not smelling so much of roses, in
Harry's view. Everyone knew more about his own freakin' destiny
than himself. His overprotection has led to Sirius' death, and
Molly's dislike for Sirius was made quite clear, and every attempt
at protection in Harry's experience has failed: his parents' fidelis
charm, Gringotts, the faculty, Fluffy et al, the faculty again,
Azkaban, dementors, the Ministry on several occasions, and the
Order.<
Pippin:
Every protection fails sooner or later. It's quite a leap to say that
because the protection failed eventually, it was never needed at
all. Is there canon that anyone, aside from Dumbledore, knew
more about Harry's destiny than Harry?
The best anyone but Dumbledore could have given Harry was
partial knowledge of the prophecy.That wouldn't have helped
Harry. It would only have misled him and fired his curiosity to
know the rest, just as it did Voldemort. But I don't believe there's
any canon that anyone else in the Order knew even that much--a
fleeting glance between Sirius and Lupin is the only hint.
Josh:
> Molly is over-protective, and Harry is definitely on a countdown
to explode at all this protection.<
Pippin:
Oh, *that* will prove how mature he is. <g> The wise response is
Bill's--he listens politely to Molly, then does what he
thinks best. Harry does the same, and always has. He'd have to
regress quite a bit to think he needed to gain his independence
by telling off Molly. That wouldn't be unrealistic in terms of an
actual teenager, but it'd be a bit boring for the reader. We've seen
enough angry Harry, haven't we?
Josh:
> It's not that she isn't nice, concerned, etc. It is that she takes
it too far and passes back into negative territory... petty,
scathing,
etc. on occasion. She needs an attitude adjustment on when to
back off.<
It's true that in her blind zeal to protect Harry she sometimes is
unjust to others, but her friends understand that. There is no
indication that either Sirius or Hermione held it against her.
When Molly took against Hermione, Harry calmly and gently set
her straight. It would have been nice for Hermione's sake if he
had thought to do it sooner, of course.
Molly doesn't *keep* making nasty remarks to Sirius, there was
only the one. And it'd be silly for Harry to blame her for keeping
him in the dark. She was the most vocal about it, but *all* the
adult members of the Order were agreed--there was nothing
stopping any of them, Sirius and Lupin included, from taking
Harry aside and telling him whatever they knew.
Pippin
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