biggest SPOILER _ graveyard at Hogwarts

kellymcj2000 kelly at protocallonline.com
Wed Aug 11 17:43:46 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109719

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "aboutthe1910s" 
<aboutthe1910s at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arielock2001" <arielock at a...>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Born as the seventh month dies:
> > September is "the seventh month." That is what the word
> > means. It just can't be July.
> <snip>
> 
> 
> I hate to bring this up when you have put forth a theory that you 
have
> clearly put a lot of thought and care into, but here's the *really*
> huge flaw--see it *just can* be July.  And while I know Jo loves to
> turn things around on us, and I don't believe that she would allow
> *convention* to dictate plot, I still just cannot believe that she
> would write a book in which the main antagonist is defeated by 
someone
> other than the protagonist.  And, quite simply, Harry is the
> protagonist.  Not Lily.  Not Peter.  And, while I'm expounding, *not
> Hermione*!
snip by kmcj 
> aboutthe1910s

now kmcj
The discussion about this theory is really getting interesting and 
there seem to be two main lines of thought: 
1- Sept. as the seventy month is correct, though the exact details 
regarding arianna's theory remain to be seen
2- the Sept. theory is incorrect because 7th month is, in fact, July

I am really quite in the middle of it.  On the one hand, saying 
the 'seventh month' and meaning July does seem too obvious.  The part 
in the prophecy when she says seventh month really jumped out at me 
the first time I read it.  Just seems to be a red flag. 

On the other hand, she hasn't given us any indication in the text of 
a birthday or any major event happening at the end of September.  I 
believe it (a major event in Sept.) would have been at least hinted 
at by now because JKR did say once she's laid all her clues and we 
could figure it out from what's in the books.  I don't think she 
expect us to make such a critical/crucial deduction about Lily and 
Peter being born at the end of Sept. based mostly on the idea that 
someone needs to be born then. 

(I'm not saying that's all you based your guess on arianna.  I know 
you did have other data/points to support their <lily and peter's> 
birthdays being in Sept. and didn't make the claim based solely on 
the necessity of having to have someone's birthday occur then; 
however I did get the impression that the discovery of Sept as the 
seventh month did generate the rest of your theory.  Please forgive 
me if I'm wrong.)

I hope I'm making sense here.  What I'm trying to say is that I don't 
think JKR would expect us to conclude the Lily/Peter connection based 
on our knowing Sept. means the seventh month AND I don't see enough 
other evidence in the text on which to make such a conclusion.  As 
mentioned above, I do really think we'd have had a clue about it 
before.

Now that I'm writing this, I am realizing we are of course in for at 
least one more huge revelation (identity of the HBP) and it could be 
argued that figuring out this unknown element hasn't been made easy 
for us.  Just as this Lily/Pter connection hasn't been.  Despite that 
possibility, I really do think the outcome of the series will be 
based more on Harry's decisions and the consequences of choices he's 
made in the past rather than on what others have done.  

So, to me, there should still be some as yet undiscovered 
significance to the seventh month.  Wish I had some ideas.  Thanks 
for letting us in on this arianna.  It's very cool. And thanks for 
reading this far.  

kmcj  
 









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