biggest SPOILER _ graveyard at Hogwarts
kellymcj2000
kelly at protocallonline.com
Wed Aug 11 17:43:46 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109719
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "aboutthe1910s"
<aboutthe1910s at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arielock2001" <arielock at a...>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Born as the seventh month dies:
> > September is "the seventh month." That is what the word
> > means. It just can't be July.
> <snip>
>
>
> I hate to bring this up when you have put forth a theory that you
have
> clearly put a lot of thought and care into, but here's the *really*
> huge flaw--see it *just can* be July. And while I know Jo loves to
> turn things around on us, and I don't believe that she would allow
> *convention* to dictate plot, I still just cannot believe that she
> would write a book in which the main antagonist is defeated by
someone
> other than the protagonist. And, quite simply, Harry is the
> protagonist. Not Lily. Not Peter. And, while I'm expounding, *not
> Hermione*!
snip by kmcj
> aboutthe1910s
now kmcj
The discussion about this theory is really getting interesting and
there seem to be two main lines of thought:
1- Sept. as the seventy month is correct, though the exact details
regarding arianna's theory remain to be seen
2- the Sept. theory is incorrect because 7th month is, in fact, July
I am really quite in the middle of it. On the one hand, saying
the 'seventh month' and meaning July does seem too obvious. The part
in the prophecy when she says seventh month really jumped out at me
the first time I read it. Just seems to be a red flag.
On the other hand, she hasn't given us any indication in the text of
a birthday or any major event happening at the end of September. I
believe it (a major event in Sept.) would have been at least hinted
at by now because JKR did say once she's laid all her clues and we
could figure it out from what's in the books. I don't think she
expect us to make such a critical/crucial deduction about Lily and
Peter being born at the end of Sept. based mostly on the idea that
someone needs to be born then.
(I'm not saying that's all you based your guess on arianna. I know
you did have other data/points to support their <lily and peter's>
birthdays being in Sept. and didn't make the claim based solely on
the necessity of having to have someone's birthday occur then;
however I did get the impression that the discovery of Sept as the
seventh month did generate the rest of your theory. Please forgive
me if I'm wrong.)
I hope I'm making sense here. What I'm trying to say is that I don't
think JKR would expect us to conclude the Lily/Peter connection based
on our knowing Sept. means the seventh month AND I don't see enough
other evidence in the text on which to make such a conclusion. As
mentioned above, I do really think we'd have had a clue about it
before.
Now that I'm writing this, I am realizing we are of course in for at
least one more huge revelation (identity of the HBP) and it could be
argued that figuring out this unknown element hasn't been made easy
for us. Just as this Lily/Pter connection hasn't been. Despite that
possibility, I really do think the outcome of the series will be
based more on Harry's decisions and the consequences of choices he's
made in the past rather than on what others have done.
So, to me, there should still be some as yet undiscovered
significance to the seventh month. Wish I had some ideas. Thanks
for letting us in on this arianna. It's very cool. And thanks for
reading this far.
kmcj
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