biggest SPOILER _ graveyard at Hogwarts

Bex hubbarrk at rose-hulman.edu
Wed Aug 11 21:46:18 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109752

I (Yblitzka) wrote:
> > I think a general agreement has been reached that Harry could 
take 
> > the prophecy ONLY because his name was on it, which was because 
> > someone put his name on it (an Unspeakable, for sure, maybe a 
> > Keeper of the Prophecies?), because DD and everyone else who knew 
> > about it assumed that, after the Godric's Hollow affair, Harry 
> > was "the One" mentioned in the prophecy. Peter wouldn't be able 
to 
> > mess with it because his name isn't on it. Whether the prophecy 
has 
> > anything to do with him or not is moot regarding removing the orb 
> > from the shelf. 

Then SSSusan asked:
> I'd argue that that's opinion and not canon, but if you're right, 
> then this would mean that when the prophecy was first placed there, 
> only Voldy could've removed it, correct?  Or could Voldy, Neville 
or 
> Harry have removed it?  And then once the ministry re-labeled it, 
> then only Voldy or Harry could pick it up.  Is that the gist of it?

My reply:
OK, I'll give you that there isn't any canon that specifically 
supports my theory, but circumstantial evidence is there. No one can 
remove the orb except Harry (and LV, but he couldn't just waltz into 
the MoM and grab it, now could he?). Lucius didn't want it UNTIL 
Harry grabbed it, and I think he even says something like "You were 
the only one who could touch it" or something like that. And on being 
relabeled, etc...

The labels would /probably/ (speculation on my part) have been (if it 
was labeled once and then changed as necessary):

First: <blank> and LV/Dark Lord (I don't know what they put on the 
orb for Voldemort. 

Then, after the boys were born: NL or HP and LV (thus either boy or 
LV could have removed it)

After the attack on Godric's Hollow: HP and LV (whatever the last 
label was, that was shown in OotP)

Of course, Neville and Harry were at most 15 months old while both 
names were on it (before Godric's Hollow), so they wouldn't be very 
interested in picking it up (oooo, shiny), and LV believed he'd heard 
all of it, so he wasn't interested in grabbing it either. But anyone 
about whom the prophecy speaks (to the best of the recorder's 
interpreting skills) will have their name on the prophecy, and thus 
be able to pick it up off the shelf.

~Yb





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