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SSSusan asked:
> > I'd argue that that's opinion and not canon, but if you're 
right, then this would mean that when the prophecy was first placed 
there, only Voldy could've removed it, correct?  Or could Voldy, 
Neville or Harry have removed it?  And then once the ministry re-
labeled it, then only Voldy or Harry could pick it up.  Is that the 
gist of it?< < 
 
Yb:
> OK, I'll give you that there isn't any canon that specifically 
> supports my theory, but circumstantial evidence is there. No one 
> can remove the orb except Harry (and LV, but he couldn't just 
> waltz into the MoM and grab it, now could he?). Lucius didn't want 
> it UNTIL Harry grabbed it, and I think he even says something 
> like "You were the only one who could touch it" or something like 
> that. And on being relabeled, etc...
> 
> The labels would /probably/ (speculation on my part) have been (if 
> it was labeled once and then changed as necessary):
> 
> First: <blank> and LV/Dark Lord (I don't know what they put on the 
> orb for Voldemort. 
> 
> Then, after the boys were born: NL or HP and LV (thus either boy 
> or LV could have removed it)
> 
> After the attack on Godric's Hollow: HP and LV (whatever the last 
> label was, that was shown in OotP)
> 
> Of course, Neville and Harry were at most 15 months old while both 
> names were on it (before Godric's Hollow), so they wouldn't be 
> very interested in picking it up (oooo, shiny), and LV believed 
> he'd heard all of it, so he wasn't interested in grabbing it 
> either. But anyone about whom the prophecy speaks (to the best of 
> the recorder's interpreting skills) will have their name on the 
> prophecy, and thus be able to pick it up off the shelf.
> 
> ~Yb


SSSusan:
Oh, I wasn't arguing that Harry or Neville would actually have been 
interested in picking up the orb as babies; I was just asking what 
was possible.  

As for how the label changed, we know this much:

"It's--it's got your name on," said Ron.

...

"My name?" said Harry blankly.

He stepped forward.  ...In spidery writing was written a date of 
some sixteen years previously, and below that: 

S.P.T. to A.P.W.B.D
Dark Lord
and (?) Harry Potter

[OoP, pp. 779-780, US hardback]

'The odd thing is, Harry," [DD] said softly, "that it may not have 
meant you at all.  Sibyll's prophecy could have applied to two 
wizard boys....  One, of course, was you.  The other was Neville 
Longbottom."

"But then...but then, why was it my name on the prophecy and not 
Neville's?"

"The official record was relabeled after Voldemort's attack on you 
as a child," said DD.  "It seemed plain to the keeper of the Hall of 
Prophecy that Voldemort could only have tried to kill you because he 
knew you to be the one to whom Sibyll was referring."  [p. 842]


So, as I read this again, I think you were right in your earlier 
post, that Harry could take it because *someone* put his name on it--
rather than there being some inherent magic in the orb or something. 

Really, all I was trying to get at with my previous question was 
this:  When the DoM person labelled it "Dark Lord and (?)", I 
wondered if all *three* could have taken it from the shelf [not that 
they would have at age 15 months, but just hypothetically], and then 
once it was relabeled w/  Harry's name, would Neville still have 
been able to remove it, or just Harry & Voldy?

Siriusly Snapey Susan