Why Was Hagrid Left Out of the Order?

mhbobbin mhbobbin at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 12 18:52:22 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109857

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <asian_lovr2 at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Maggie" <cincimaelder at y...> 
wrote:
> > Asian_lovr2:
> 
> > 
> However, I would like to add a more general comment about who is on
> which side. There seems to be a misconception that you are either a
> Death Eater or you are against Voldemort, and the same applies to 
the > Order of the Phoenix, you are either in it, or you are against
> Dumbledore. By extension, this belief implies that if you are for
> Voldemort, then you are automatically a Death Eater, and if you are
> for Dumbledore, you are automatically a member of the Order of the
> Phoenix. 
> 
> snip snip> 
> There are many more people fighting against Voldemort than just the
> Order of the Phoenix; Dark Forces Defense League, Magical Law
> Enforcement, the Auror's office, forces from the International
> Confederation of Wizards, citizen wizards-foreign and domestic, 
etc....  
> 
> > 
> Restated; in the orginal conflict the Dark Lord may have amassed an
> army of thousands, but that was thousands of soldier, not 
thousands of > Death Eaters. 
> 
> mhbobbin:
  I also suspect there are minimal magical powers restrictions to be 
a DE. (For example, I think Umbridge is a DE wanna-be. I'd be very 
surprised if LV would find her powerful enough to be one of his 
elite squad. Her power in the OotP is due to Fudge's placing her at 
Hogwarts. She couldn't even get rid of the swamp and DD's office 
barred her.  But she was mean enough to be a DE.  

Have we had any other mentions of Dark Forces Defense League other 
than that Lockhart was a member. (Cough.)

mhbobbin





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