Fudge and Scar, Hagrid and Order, Dumbledore and Longbottoms

[Amey Chinchorkar]

No: HPFGUIDX 109931

-	DuffyPoo:
-	Snow, does your book really say "but I've *never* heard of a curse
-	scar?"  Both of mine, Canadian HB and PB published in 2000
-	say "You'll forgive me, Dumbledore, but I've [I have] heard of a
-	curse scar acting as an alarm bell before."  
-	Aggie:
-	My UK version (p613 published 2000) says the same as DuffyPoo's.  As
-	it stands though it doesn't make sense (although I'm sure the English
-	bods on here will elaborate on that!).   I have to admit I *read* it
-	as having the 'never' in there, it's the only way my little brain can
-	make sense of what Fudge is saying!!  

Amey:
My edition also says the same thing. I took it as Fudge referring to Rita’s article on Harry or maybe his experience in Ministry (Magical Law Enforcement). But I agree, *never* makes much more sense given Fudge and is habit of not looking beyond his own nose.


-	RMM:
-	Well I think the episode with the dinosaur egg probably sealed it
-	for him.  He becomes a weak link in the organization.
-	As much as I love him, and he can do great things for the cause, I
-	could not trust him with critical information -- like how to get
-	past Fluffy. :-)

Amey:
<Nitpik> not dino egg, dragon egg.. there is a difference </nitpik>
He was in the original photograph of the Order. Also, he was away most of the part with *his* Maxime and so could not attend the meetings. And also, he is *Keeper* of 
 Hogwarts and so I doubt he attends the meetings. His presence in London will not go unnoticed.

-	Brenda
-	Of course, one must ask, WHY on earth the Longbottoms were tortured
-	to insanity in the first place.  Voldemort has disappeared a year
-	prior to that, what made Bellatrix & co believe that they knew his
-	whereabouts, out of everyone in the Order?  I know I am not the only
-	one thinking that it was just a cover-up excuse.
-	If it is the case of 3) or 4) from above, I think it has Ever-So-Evil!
-	Dumbledore written all over the place.  Great, Kneasy will be
-	pleased...
-	If D-Dore indeed felt the need to orchestrate this cover-up, it makes
-	me wonder just whatever intel was that they had.  Must be of utmost
-	importance.
-	I wonder, if DD did play a role in Longbottoms' supposed insanity and
-	the truth comes out, how Neville will take this...  Will he feel much
-	rage to actually hurt Dumbledore?  Hmm, something to think about...
Amey:
Where did you get the figure of 1 year? They were tortured when people had started feeling safe, so it can be even as early as 1 week or 1 month (I mean, they started full celebrations even on the rumour that *You-Know-Who* had vanished). And also, the Longbottoms were easy to get because they were Aurors and had to move out of security. Also, maybe Bella knew the two kids Voldemort was after and thought that since Potters are dead, they are the oinly ones remaining. Also, being Aurors (The Elite), they must have much more info about the War and its participants than anybody else. Also, they are known to be close to Dumbledore. This makes the Longbottoms perfect for getting information.
As for Dumbledore playing a role, what are his motives? What information they can possibly have? 

Amey, who is ready to read about what Dumbledore finds so important to hide



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