A Case for Marauders

Amey Chinchorkar sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Fri Aug 13 10:49:57 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109953

Amey:
Gosh, and I thought one mail on this topic would be my only contribution
. Ok here goes again
.

-	RMM:
-	Secondly, Lord Voldemort. In the early 1970s, what does the name
-	invoke to you?  The same as it would in 1981?  Apparently so.
-	You simply cannot look back in foresight and say -- hey its 1970 and
-	Lord Voldemort is here and he is evil.  I know because of what he
-	does
-	in 1980!!
-	Has Voldemort been suspected of anything before starting the movement
-	of the DEs?
-	No, he left school with Honors.  He was Head Boy, he won a special
-	award.
-	There is absolutely no reason that Voldemort, as Voldemort, would
-	have any bad reputation preceding him when he arrived on the scene in
-	1970.

Amey:
We have a canon that he was not recognized (still is not recognized) as Tom Riddle by many. So he had no history. He was not the person who was Head Boy, he was a totally new person
 and he was harping on pureblood thing
 I agree he might not have any bad reputation, but then he had no reputation... do you think Dumbledore would agree to take him as a teacher without proper background (even LockHart had a reputation)

-	RMM:
-	Like the Polyjuice Potion for one?  Knocking out a person and keeping
-	them under wraps while you impersonate them?  You know, like stealing
-	someone's identity?  
-	Well, I know three 2nd years that did exactly that.  But that's okay..
-	. they were just kids.
-	As far and Good and Bad are concerned there was absolutely no
-	difference between what Harry, Ron, and Hermione did and what B.
-	Crouch Jr. did.

Amey:
Ok, there are 3 persons who kill another person. One of them get life sentence, second gets 5  yrs jail, third gets a medal. Now what is the difference between them? The first person commited cold-blooded murder (he is a murderer), the second killed in self-defence and the third person killed on duty (a soldier or law-enforcer). 
Barty Crouch Jr. did what he did for his personal gain, and he tried to kill Harry. The trio were trying to get to the truth, they had no intention of killing or harming anyone.

-	RMM:
-	Perhaps you can see a huge defining line between it, but to students
-	at school who are already performing nasty things to each other,
-	there
-	is no defining line for it.
-	Now that you go this route, it brings me to a conclusion.
-	James decided he hated the Dark Arts after doing it.... He was doing
-	things that he only regretted later and finally swore off.
-	He shows at 15 that he is prime for bigger and better feats of
-	nastiness, and there is nothing there to stop him....except Lily.

Amey:
SO you mean at 15 he and Sirius tried Dark Arts and dabbled in PureBlood theory and at 16, Sirius left his parents’ home because he hated all these things. In 1 year, he changed so much????

-	RMM:
-	I don't see him "pissed off" about using the word.  I see him telling
-	Lily that he wouldn't call her that.  He is not serious about the
-	Purebloodism.  He is seriously into the magic and what is being
-	offered him in the DEs.

Amey:
He did not even mention the word, he was so pissed off with that word.

'What?' yelped James. I'd NEVER call you a - you-know-what!' (OOtP)
What is this if not pissed off?

-	RMM:
-	However, I will use the fact that there has been a change in James
-	that Lily now sees him as attractive where she saw him as a jerk
-	before.
-	This change can be partially explained by a separation between the
-	two
-	troublemakers - Sirius and James.  James probably became a little
-	more
-	mature outside the influence of his best buddy.
-	So, there may be a double reason why James has altered his ego to the
-	point that Lily now sees him in a different light and now begins to
-	go
-	out with him.  (The other reason being James entry into the world of
-	Voldemort.)

Amey:
Out of influence of Sirius? Do you mean that James and Sirius were going apart? Show me canon for this please


-	RMM:
-	A soft hearted leader when it came to the Marauders.

Amey:
When did Lupin become a leader of marauders?? Sirius and James had that place jointly, if we believe canon.

-	RMM:
-	I have constructed the timeline for Sirius and James and their 6th
-	and
-	7th years at Hogwarts.  All of it conforms to canon.


Amey, who would love to see how a person can change so much in just one year




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