Harry's Use of Cruciatus curse/Killing Voldemort?

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 13 14:32:02 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109994


> Asian_lovr2:
> 
> I don't think it is Harry who is being monitored, it's Privet Drive
> that is being watched. The magic he performs there is magic that is
> out of place; it's magic in the Muggle world. There wouldn't be much
> point in monitoring magic at the Ministry when magic happens there all
> day and all night. It would be monitor overload. 
> 
> That said, we don't know that someone won't figure it out. There was
> very little time at the end of the book. So, he could easily have to
> face it to some degree at the beginning of the next book. If nothing
> else, Hermione will give him a good telling off when she finds out.
> Or, perhaps Snape will get wind of it and bring the information back
> to Dumbledore.
> 
> I think Harry will have to face his use of the Cruciatus Curse, but I
> think he will have to face it mostly in his conscience and before
> Dumbledore. And while there may be some limited degree of legal
> inquiry, I don't think Harry will have to face the full force of the
> law. I think they will see that he was a kid acting under extreme
> emotional distress, and therefore bares limited responsibility. In
> addition, I think they have far bigger problems to deal with than
> harrassing Harry for a failed curse.

Finwitch:

That's one point. It's Muggle areas that get monitored, and number 4 
Privet Drive especially. They can identify the spell used and 
possibly also was it loss of control (Accidental) or deliberate 
(Misuse).

What comes to the use of Unforgivable: "The use of one of them on a 
human being is enough for a lifetime in Azkaban".

The Ministry officials might tell that *someone* shouted Crucio - but:

1) With Voldemort and all the DEs in there - I doubt that anyone is 
going to doubt Harry or any other kid, for that matter

2) For Harry's part, it was an *attempt*, not actual using of the 
curse. I don't know whether an attempt is punishable.

3) Why do they specialize three curses as unforgivable? My theory is 
that it has to do with required emotion in order to accomplish one of 
them... I mean, it's one thing to want to hurt someone in anger and 
even hurting them as such, but to *enjoy* doing it!!! (Accoding to 
Beatrix Lestrange, one MUST enjoy giving pain if one is to cast a 
cruciatus curse... I think the real Moody never used one of those 
curses - there ARE loads of other ways to kill people, after all...).
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Anyway, even if Harry is to kill Voldemort, he doesn't have to do it 
with Avada Kedavra. A full grown Mandrake would do (it'd also get rid 
of all the DEs within earshot). Use the Sword of Gryffindor to chop 
his head off, Transfiguring into a fish on dry land, poison them...

(There's a trick - Harry uses Mandrake, but he, too, hears it cry and 
dies.. No more Harry Potter).

Finwitch






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