Umbridge and Fudge and DEs (Was: Case for Marauders)

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No: HPFGUIDX 110024

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Nora Renka" <nrenka at y...> 
wrote:
> > Nora:
> >> Seems pretty clear what they were preaching, and 
> >> it's more of a reflection on just how damnably nasty wizarding 
> >> society is AND was that people thought it was a good idea. 
> >> Remember that Fudge is also accused by DD of putting too much 
> >> belief in blood.  It's a canonically widespread bias.  It's what 
> >> Dumbledore has been fighting against for a long, long time.  It 
> >> may well be the main thread of the books, from the Founders to 
> >> the present.  It's one thing that separates the 'good' good guys 
> >> from the 'ewww' good guys--Umbridge and Fudge think along blood 
> >> lines, and therefore share something deep with the DEs even 
> >> though they purport to be truly fighting them.
> > 
> > RMM:
> > Umbridge and Fudge in with the DEs?
> > Sorry, but that is completely out there.
> 
> If you're going to object, you might as well object to what I 
> *actually* said, O Close Reader.
> 
> Umbridge and Fudge, I will contend, because they believe too much 
in 
> blood, and have (in Umbridge's case) the particularly nasty 
> attitudes towards the other magical creatures, share a certain 
> amount of their philosophical BASIS with the DEs.
> 
> Fudge may be anti-Voldemort, but he still believes in and uses the 
> blood principle, which is what fueled Voldemort's rise to gaining 
> supporters in the first place.  Umbridge, in her eager desire to 
> help Fudge stay in power, ends up doing a whole hell of a lot of 
> things that aid the DEs.  This, it seems fairly obvious to me, was 
> one of the major points of OotP--the world isn't divided into Order 
> members and DEs, and the wrong methods towards the right end can 
end 
> up being assistance to those very things that they purported to be 
> fighting.
> 
> -Nora gets back to important things, such as watching TV and lazing 
> around in house-slippers

Snow:

Snow:

I totally agree with you, Nora, except for this last statement: 

> -Nora gets back to important things, such as watching TV and lazing 
> around in house-slippers

You forgot eating bonbons! It should have read watching TV and lazing 
around in house-slippers eating bonbons. Nora
 how could you forget 
the bonbons! Must have been the lack of cake ;-)