some sirius hinting... yay puns!

[Lissa Hess]

No: HPFGUIDX 110267

At 10:59 PM 8/16/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>Justine:
>Yes.  Actually, while I don't wholeheartedly support this 'ship, I
>wholeheartedly agree it's plausible.  But while, Lupin *was* living
>at Grimmauld Place, he was out doing "mysterious work for the Order"
>much of the time.  Grimmauld Place is probably a more appropriate
>home base if he's not going to be home most of the time, since it's
>headquarters.  Also, Remus really doesn't have money.  Sirius does,
>but has no way to go out shopping.  I doubt Remus would ask Sirius
>to lend him money for Christmas presents... so, joint gift.
>
>In conlusion, I like manslut!Sirius, Peter can sod off and is not
>invited to the christening for some important reason apparently, and
>I want to marry Remus, who is also not there for some important
>reason.
>
>Justine,
>who can't deny that she is a shameless fangirl when it comes to the
>wolf
>

Lissa:

Who is also a total shameless fangirl when it comes to the wolf.  It's just 
that she's married (to someone not all THAT different from Lupin, minus the 
lycanthropy, of course), and so she's got to come up with other options for 
him rather than having him for herself.

The thing about Lupin living at Grimmauld Place is that we know he has a 
place of his own.  At the end of GoF, DD tells Sirius to lie low at Lupin's 
for a while.  He's got SOMETHING.  And as humble as it probably is, given 
how much Sirius despises his ancestral home I can't see him trying to 
convince Lupin to move in with him unless he specifically wants Lupin to be 
living there.  Given how easy apparation is (um, assuming Lupin can 
apparate, anyway, which I'll freely admit I've seen no evidence for one way 
or the other!), I don't know if it matters if he lives in London or halfway 
across the world.  Distance doesn't seem to be a big deal when you're a 
wizard.  That's why I take Lupin living at #12 Grimmauld Place to be more 
than a matter of convenience.  I will admit that it might just be that he 
and Sirius are so lonely that they appreciate the company of old friends, 
but I like my more romantic view on the subject ;)

As for the Christmas gift, what perks my ears up is that Lupin couldn't 
even send Harry a Christmas card the year before, and now he's going in on 
an expensive set of books?  It is one of those ambiguous hints because both 
arguments work.  Completely.

Since we're talking about it anyway, aside from the living together, the 
big red flashing neon light for me is how Sirius will actually obey Lupin 
.  That's not something he grants to anyone else- not even Harry or 
Dumbledore.  I read them as simply written as a couple, in the same way 
that Molly and Arthur are written as a couple.  The dynamic between them is 
very, well, for lack of a better word, couplish.  But again, I don't think 
they were parading it around for everyone to see, but rather keeping it 
private.  Not necessarily out of shame or anything, but simply because it 
was between the two of them and that's how they wanted it to stay. It's not 
a very detailed argument, but that's what got me into that particular 
Ship.  (Just for the record, Sirius and Remus are the only male/male couple 
I ship, although I'll entertain the amusing notion that Snape is in love 
with Remus as opposed to Lily.  I don't think either's really true, but I 
can really make the pieces fit for that one.  I mention it because my 
junior high kids accused me of thinking everyone's gay.  ::Sigh:: )

I DO like your concept of manslut!Sirius while Lupin's heading for more 
monogamy, or my theory, which is eitehr a.) neither of them bothered to 
really look around for much else because so much else was going on, or b.) 
Remus wasn't necessarily sleeping around, but he wasn't exactly doing 
nothing either.

I actually think Peter was the one kissing Florence.  At the time that DD 
calls up that memory, Peter is the confirmed DE on the loose that's 
supporting Voldie.  Makes sense that DD would call up a memory that 
connects Bertha Jorkins and Peter Pettigrew.  But yeah, I couldn't really 
care less what Peter was doing in his love life ;)

Okay.  I've rambled long enough.  Point: I think there's ambiguous evidence 
that can be taken either way, and I think fanfic's very, erm... optimistic 
(deluded at times!) about the way that two 21-year old guys have 
relationships (in general).  While I'm still happily sailing, I'm also 
still maintaining that marriage, china patterns, adopting Harry, Lily and 
James matchmaking, double weddings, sugary-sweet nicknames, and anything 
that involves over-emoting or crying gets tossed overboard!

Liss