The Portkey Cup (WAS: Apparation and Sirius' vault)

candlekicks candlekicks at yahoo.ca
Wed Aug 18 16:19:05 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 110523

> > Amey:
> > But as for the Cup,
> > "I offered to carry the Triwizard Cup into the maze before 
> > dinner," whispered Barty Crouch.  "Turned it into a Portkey.  
> > My master's plan worked.  He is returned to power and I will
> > be honored by him beyond the dreams of wizards." (GoF)
> > 
> > So, I am not sure the Cup was already a portkey, it could be
 
> > but then what Crouch did was not add a stop, but change the 
> > destination completely.

> Grey Wolf:
> we've been through the discussion of the portkey!cup before, and 
> he didn't go into detail - it is a very much accepted theory that, 
> nonetheless, does have a few holes. But then, prior to it, the 
> story had a whole many more holes.

<major snip>
 
> And if Jr. had changed the destination completely, he would've 
> deleted the original jump (to the entrance of the maze), instead 
> of simply adding an extra one.


Linda:
I have always thought that DD or the MoM made the TWcup a Portkey to 
return the winner to the entrance to the maze. It seems to me that 
it wouldn't have been common knowledge. The portkey could have been 
magicked to only transfer one of the four champions, thus not having 
an effect on the fake Moody. 

The only other solution that I can think of is that the champions 
were supposed to send up sparks when they reached the cup to have 
someone from the outside come and get them, but I haven't seen 
anything in the books to support that. They were only told to send 
up sparks if they were in trouble.... Unless that falls into the red 
sparks/green sparks thing that seems to work it's way into the book 
regularly??? Any thoughts?

Linda






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