Snape's DE past (was Re: Snape and the Edinburgh Festival )

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 111283

HumanTupperware wrote:
> > Your post got me thinking, not so much "why" Snape left the DE, 
> > but if he turned into a spy for Dumbldore's side, how has he 
> > convinced Voldy that he is still loyal? Apart from the 
> > Occlumency, which I'm sure comes in handy, Voldemort surely knows 
> > that Snape works at Hogwarts, so somehow, his teaching position 
> > must be justified to Voldy.
> > 
> > I'm sure I surmised somewhere during the books that Snape had been
> > spying for Dumbledore in the days before Voldy was vanquished, 
> > then afterwards had actually manged to leave the DE for a while, 
> > but then returned, (at the end of GOF?) to spy for Dumbledore 
> > again. Sure, he would have gotten the teaching position at 
> > Hogwarts after Voldy's vanquishment, but did he maintain to the 
> > remaining DE that he was at Hogwarts to spy on Dumbledore?  If he 
> > then returned to Voldy after GOF, for him to justify keeping his 
> > teaching position, he must be telling Voldy some information, 
> > maybe pretending to spy on Dumbledore, but giving fake 
> > information?  
> > Do Snape and Dumbledore get together once a week to make up 
> > stories to tell Voldy? 

Carol:
> Suppose that he took the position *before* Godric's Hollow, before 
> the beginning of term, when a position was most likely to be open 
> and advertised for. His real motive, of course, would be to get 
> away from Voldemort and the DEs and to be close to Dumbledore, for 
> whom he was already working as a spy, but he could have told 
> Voldemort that he was applying to spy *on* Dumbledore. There would 
> have been a mere two months in which he would have had to pass on 
> some sort of fake information, certainly with the advice and 
> approval of Dumbledore, and ten long years during which Voldemort 
> was out of the picture (though I imagine that neither Snape nor 
> Dumbledore believed that he was gone forever).
> 
> Snape would not have been expected to return to Voldemort until the
> night at the graveyard in GoF. 


SSSusan:
I may be missing something, Carol, but how could Snape & DD have 
*planned* this?  No one could have known that Voldy was going to go 
down that night at GH.  Again, I may be mis-reading this, but it 
seems you're suggesting Snape "only" had to worry about those two 
months between start of term & Halloween night.

As for HumanTupperware's final question, above, I've often wondered 
that myself.  *If* Snape is *actually* spying FOR the Order and 
*pretending* to spy for Voldy, what kinds of stuff would he feed 
Voldy?  I suppose this complication--as well as the notion that Voldy 
assumes Snape switched loyalties--is part of what's behind those 
posters here who think Snape is NOT actually in contact w/ Voldy 
these days and either isn't spying on him at all, or is doing so only 
in a manner which is hidden [*cough*bat/vampire*cough*].  That would 
still beg the question of why Lucius hasn't severed ties w/ Severus, 
though, wouldn't it?

Siriusly Snapey Susan, amazed at all the mysteries which surround 
Severus Snape.