Snape's DE past

totorivers tombadgerlock at freesurf.fr
Thu Aug 26 13:34:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 111291

Potioncat:
> The biggest drawback to Severus loves Lily is that if he loved 
> Lily, would he join the DEs in the first place? If he carried a 
> torch for Lily how could he treat her son so badly?
> 
> Now, if she rejected him in a cruel manner and he was out to get 
> revenge on both James and Lily, then that wouldn't explain why he 
> left LV.


   The other drawback is that while Severus really hated James, it 
was almost the same for Sirius or Remus. James just took the brunt 
of the hate because he was the unofficial leader, and we see in 
canon that James just bothered Sevvie because Sirius was bored -
there was no *competition* between them, it was all on Sevvie's 
part. I also wonder where you took the basis for calling Sevvie 
intelligent or anything like that. Sevvie is broken, he wanted to be 
the best but couldn't. He isn't some deep character, we can see 
through the books that when it comes to it, he is unable to make the 
right decision when it comes to Harry being right about something, 
nor about Sirius and so on. From cannon, James is known to not only 
bother Sevvie but loads of Slytherin: there is no rivalry in James 
part, except he is said to hate the dark arts. He is also *helped* 
along the way by Sirius, who hates Snape for being what he could have 
been...

Siriusly Snapey Susan:
> Kneasy has stated many times his belief that Snape's motivation is 
> NOT a belief in good over evil, nor anything, really, besides his 
> own personal agenda, likely a desire for personal revenge. I don't 
> go quite that far. I think DD *wouldn't* trust Snape if that's all 
> there were to it...and I don't think DD is unable to judge Snape's 
> true motivations. I think DD knows pretty much the full story, 
> whatever it is.
> 
> SO WHAT IS IT?!? 


Ok, that's just an hunch, and one most of you won't like: Maybe 
Severus realised that in Voldemort's world, only Voldemort had any 
power, and that the others were just crucio recipients. Or maybe 
Snape realised he would just stay an underdog in the DE, and 
couldn't accept it. That goes well with his temperament: no 
epiphany, just the realisation that being a DE, even if he does 
something that makes him number two, won't make him more powerful 
or anything, for the simple reason Voldemort allows no one exept 
himself to have power.

And as for DD trusting him as a spy....I don't think DD does. I 
don't even think DD cares for Severus as a spy, he just doesn't want 
Severus to kill people for fun, and using him that way can be a way 
to keep a leash on Snape.

"totorivers" 





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