How many people know the full prophecy?

dungrollin spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 27 16:13:23 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 111417

I've been wondering about this for a while.  The only people we are 
certain know the full prophecy are Harry and Dumbledore. (Trelawney 
wouldn't know, as she doesn't appear to remember her prophecies).

McGonagall didn't appear to know about it at the beginning of PS, 
(in fact from her surprise, she didn't appear to even know that You 
Know Who was after the Potters) and *she* was in the Order of the 
Phoenix at the time.

Pettigrew doesn't know, (he was also in the Order - see photograph 
that Moody shows Harry in Grimmauld Place) or he'd have told You 
Know Who and there wouldn't have been a story for OotP.

If Pettigrew didn't know before the attack at Godric's Hollow, then 
is it a safe assumption that Sirius and Lupin didn't know at that 
time, either? 

My biggest question is: Did Lily and James know?  If they did, why 
on earth did they refuse Dumbledore as secret-keeper in favour of 
Sirius, and then (absurdly) in favour of *Pettigrew*?  If you know 
you're hiding the only person who can defeat the Dark Lord, that's a 
pretty dangerous double-bluff.  

And if they didn't know... Was Dumbledore trying to stop the 
possibility of the information coming out under torture?  Would he 
not have used every piece of information he could to impress upon 
Lily and James the importance of keeping Harry safe? (At this point 
no-one knew that he'd survive the AK.)

Presumably Dumbledore has now told members of the Order, as they 
were guarding the prophecy throughout OotP, (though not necessarily -
 they do trust him rather a lot, he may have just told them that it 
was important, rather than revealing the contents). I would assume 
(if this is the case) that he told them *after* You Know Who got his 
body back at the end of GoF when the Order re-formed, otherwise the 
real Moody would have known, and Crouch Jnr would have got the 
information out of him, and told You Know Who, and again, there'd 
have been no story for OotP.

But if now the whole Order knows the full contents, that's 
dangerous - there was a spy within the Order last time, there could 
be again now (or in the future).  Perhaps he's only told them the 
first part, the part that You Know Who already knows. 

Ugh, I'm going round in circles.  Can anyone help?  Is anyone even 
interested?

Dungrollin.x







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