[HPforGrownups] How many people know the full prophecy?
charme
dontask2much at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 27 20:56:56 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 111427
From: "dungrollin"
> I've been wondering about this for a while. The only people we are
> certain know the full prophecy are Harry and Dumbledore. (Trelawney
> wouldn't know, as she doesn't appear to remember her prophecies).
>
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> My biggest question is: Did Lily and James know? If they did, why
> on earth did they refuse Dumbledore as secret-keeper in favour of
> Sirius, and then (absurdly) in favour of *Pettigrew*? If you know
> you're hiding the only person who can defeat the Dark Lord, that's a
> pretty dangerous double-bluff.
>
charme:
Ok, my hand is up for this one. However I'm donning abestos glasses just in
case for what I'm about to say: I don't believe (gut feeling on my part)
the prophecy is set in stone and it's quite possible LV was after Lily &
James for a completely different reason - all we have is DD's word that
that's why LV attacked Harry. Poor DD, he's already been known to be
fallible in OoP, hasn't he? Maybe Lily & James didn't really believe what
had been predicted, or thought it secondary to another reason LV might be
after them. I think the prophecy, while part of the plot, isn't the main
reason LV went there that night, which might answer your latter question
regarding the double bluff.
More to the point, there are *numerous* references about the viability of
predicting the future in the books, including Firenze's lesson in OoP where
he tells the class that they shouldn't put too much stock in such things and
even centaurs get their predictions wrong. To me, he's honest about it. I
wish someone in the books would ask Firenze what the future holds for
Harry - I'd probably be more apt to believe it. (Trelawny "predictions,"
both of them , refer to LV as "The Dark Lord." What was she? A Death Eater?
Is she another person who DD has "redeemed?") I 'm also not sure Minerva
would give a rat's butt if Trelawny made a prediction about anything,
including Harry.
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