Hermione using the time turner in POA

vmonte vmonte at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 28 11:28:28 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 111458

Inge replies:

Hermione may have stopped using the TT - but somebody else could
still be using it regularly:

OOTP (chap The Advanced Guard): "Remus Lupin stood nearest to him
[Harry]. Though still quite young, Lupin looked tired and rather ill;
he had more grey hairs than when Harry had last said goodbye to
him..."

I also seem to remember that Harry looked at Dumbledore one time in
OOTP (can't find the exact line of course - help me out?) and noticed
how old he really looked - something Harry never really realised
before.

Well - I for one, do hope that the TT will come into play once more
in the final books if only JK can make it work as believable (and
necessary) as she did in POA.

vmonte responds:

I was just about to post these same quotes!!! I've been collecting 
evidence of TT in the books myself. Nice work! I think that there are 
a lot of behind the scenes stuff going on in the books that we are 
probably going to later be made aware of. (JKR even mentioned that 
events from all 5 books would come up again in book 6.) I think that 
Dumbledore is TT throughout OOTP specifically. (He probably has been 
throughout books 1-5, but I think more in book 5.) He even mentions 
at Harry's trial that by a lucky mistake he arrived at the DoM three 
hours early. Did he miscalculate on his time-turning watch?  

Lupin's work for DD may also involve TT, although it seems 
particularly risky considering his condition. (Aside from Hermione, 
Lupin would be the next most responsible person I would trust with a 
time-turner.) 

I hate to quote movie cannon but I still remember what Lupin said to 
Harry in PoA. He told Harry that he recognized him immediately, not 
because he looked like his father, but because he had his mother's 
eyes. Was teenage Harry also at GH (sorry to mention this again)? Did 
Lupin (and perhaps Snape) realize who he was because of Lily's eyes? 
Will that be Harry's weakness? How about when wormtail got right up 
in Harry's face during the PoA movie and commented on Harry's 
physical appearance? Did he just recognize Harry from a past event? 
Where has wormtail been recently anyway?  

Is it possible that 17/18-year-old Harry is killed at GH but then 
brought back to the present and revived by Snape? Did he put a 
stopper on Harry's death? Is this the reason why there is a 24-hour 
time gap between the events of GH and when baby Harry is dropped off?
Is the house at GH destroyed because Harry and Voldemort's wand will 
meet up together again?

Were the Longbottoms tortured because the DEs were trying to find out 
who the mystery person (adult Harry) at GH was?

Who is yelling to Lily to run at GH? Is it really James? Why was this 
man's voice not heard during the PoA movie? Would we have recognized 
it as someone else's? (Could James have been killed right before?) 

If Sirius thought that he might die during OOTP do you think he would 
have left a penseive filled with memories for Harry in his will? 
Memories of the good times with Harry's parents perhaps? How about 
the party in Moody's picture? Do you think that the children will see 
suspicious happenings at the party?  Will they realize that Aberforth 
is the bartender?  Was an Order member acting suspiciously?

Just some thoughts.  

vivian 
        






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